> Lots of people didn’t seem to be noticing the posters at all… from a basic data protection point of view they’re not informing people well about what data they’re collecting or what is going on.
i don't think data protection applies to state surveillance. if people knew what data the state collected about them, it would defeat the point.
> if people knew what data the state collected about them, it would defeat the point.
No, it wouldn't. The point of keeping data is to be able to detect unusual activity and cross reference information. Not to spy. The people are the country and they should be able to make an informed decision on what they want the government to be tracking about people.
>No, it wouldn't. The point of keeping data is to be able to detect unusual activity and cross reference information. Not to spy. The people are the country and they should be able to make an informed decision on what they want the government to be tracking about people.
This ideal mindset breaks down for everyone other than "the good guys". The point of keeping what is tracked a secret is to prevent the-actual-people-you're-looking-for from just occluding that particular information. They can't really "opt in" to the kind of surveillance that is necessary to find predictive patterns in their behavior, because they (obviously) won't, and knowing what is tracked just tells them what to spend the extra effort hiding.
Yes so they cant interfere with how it protects them, as another commenter noted.
That parts of a system must be prevented from knowing/interfering with the inner workings of each other to protect the integrity of the whole is a general pronciple in many things Itl think.
i think it could be more like to protect the privacy of other citizens whose data it collects, and the effectiveness of its intelligence, the state must be opaque to the public and selectively transparent to itself.
Maybe one reason for the confusion /polarity on this topic, Is individuals think of privacy Through a framework of shame or something to hide, or nothing feel like sharing, But for states and organisations Privacy and secrecy is about maintaining Operational / strategic effectiveness.
> Lots of people didn’t seem to be noticing the posters at all… from a basic data protection point of view they’re not informing people well about what data they’re collecting or what is going on.
i don't think data protection applies to state surveillance. if people knew what data the state collected about them, it would defeat the point.