You're conflating fact checkers with "the media", and sort of changing the subject.
Can you explain again why exactly you don't trust answers you get from Snopes or Politifact? Don't tell me what "many Trump supporters" think. Tell me why you don't trust them.
Can you tell me why I should trust them? Shouldn't we approach these organisations that purport to be the single source of truth
with extreme scepticism?
Apart from that in my observation these organisations are not impartial, and I think in the context of the universal anti-Trump media they are easily dismissed as just another group suffering from Trump Derangement Syndrome.
I should make clear I don't live in the US and so have no direct stake in this and follow it more out of curiosity/amusement than anything else. I'm not going to try to argue Trump doesn't lie, but I think CNN etc are becoming hysterical.
Because they have a years-long(11 for Politifact, 19 for Snopes) history of being right. They're consistently, reliably right. So yeah, I trust them. I trusted them under the Clinton, Bush and Obama administrations. I trust them now.
Maybe you are the one who needs to re-evaluate priors: maybe, just maybe, the "universal anti-Trump media" environment is driven by some kind of objective (heh) truth about the Trump administration's relationship with (heh, heh) the truth, and not by mere opinion. Maybe.
Bush wrecked a ton of stuff. His administration spun like crazy. They didn't like like Trump lies. No one ever has lied like Trump lies. That's not "opinion", it just is.
You are just asserting here though aren't you? There are those that assert just as forcefully that they are wrong. On what basis am I supposed to choose which is correct?
As a disinterested observer it seems like every couple of weeks the media switch to a new script in a desperate search for something that will stick: Russia! Gun control! Sexist! Racist! Stormy Daniels! on and on yet apparently unsuccessful thus far as polling with his base looks pretty good for him. Perhaps it's all substantive, but even if it is I don't think the tactics are working. Surely better to stand back a little and let Trump make himself look foolish with his never ending ridiculous tweets?
Trump seems more conman than anything else to me, but the media would have us believe he's the Antichrist.
In the first place the post puts words in my mouth, and second it then directs me to answer questions in a not particularly civil manner. And you are borderline gaslighting me by questioning my response!
Can you explain again why exactly you don't trust answers you get from Snopes or Politifact? Don't tell me what "many Trump supporters" think. Tell me why you don't trust them.