On: OpenAI Five Benchmark

[sincerely]

It seems like the 5 invulnerable couriers restriction is something that will have a huge influence on how the early game is played and is something that the humans won't have any experience taking advantage of.

[joefkelley → sincerely]

I don't think it's that complicated to adapt to... everyone should just be pretty much constantly ferrying out regen and harass more aggressively.

[itchyouch → joefkelley]

people play with 5x invulnerable couriers in turbo mode. Essentially that is what they do. They get their items asap.

[ufo → joefkelley]

And bottles are currently disabled so you can't use the most abusive strat that 5 couriers would allow.

[acover → ufo]

I don't think you can bottle ferry anymore

[gsich → acover]

you can

[acover → gsich]

Are you sure?

https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/79uyd6/now_that_bott...

[de_watcher → gsich]

You can't. It was changed around this year.

Courier isn't that important. It's being phased out across the recant patches. And there is a popular Dota mod with 5 fast invulnerable couriers.

[gsich → de_watcher]

Courier is important. Otherwise you are forced to go back healing/getting items. Which will lose you XP and gold and ultimateley the game.

Yes there is Turbo, no it's not comparable to regular gameplay.

[Anderkent → gsich]

Regular dota players learn to play without the courier anyway, because someone always feeds it away or uses it to ferry themselves a magic stick.

So maybe playing without a courier at all would be more representative of the pub experience ;)

[gsich → Anderkent]

Must be 1k you are talking about.