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The Rogue World of New York’s Major Trash Haulers (propublica.org)
127 points by lxm on July 6, 2018 | hide | past | favorite | 8 comments



Remember why these guys were so eager to say their dead colleague was some homeless. Nobody investigates or is legally held responsible for killing unrelated pedestrians with motorized vehicles. But kill a worker and it's a whole work safety thing.


Nobody investigates or is legally held responsible for killing unrelated pedestrians with motorized vehicles.

Reminds me of the Freakonomics podcast "how to get away with murder"... it was all about how killing a pedestrian is prosecuted so seldom, it's absurd. Even in cases where the drivers are negligent (by their own admission!) are rarely prosecuted.


It's another way poor people lose their rights. Why didn't the family, who must have know what the poor guy was doing, didn't prosecute or appeal? Because they were immigrants, didn't want attention on them, whether they were legally here there were probably people around them. These poor people are almost like slaves. They can leave, but they don't have civil rights, they can't safely tell the police about mistreatment.


The Long Form Podcast did great interview[0] with the author of this story Kiera Feldman.

[0] https://longform.org/posts/longform-podcast-277-kiera-feldma...


Well anyone with even a casual knowledge of city politics in the USA would have said DUH - it still abit /lot like that.

Mafia involvement in this industry and local politics is not exactly news :-)


I take umbrage with the articles borderline clickbait points.

>Fatal accidents nationally, garbage collection is often more dangerous than police work. http://money.cnn.com/gallery/pf/jobs/2014/09/11/most-dangero...

>off-the-books workers Yawn. Maybe this was sensational 40 years ago but now nearly every industry in america is staffed to some degree with undocumented workers. to think otherwise is fooling yourself into believing your italian restaurant experience wasnt fulfilled at great personal effort by a team of central or south american chefs.

>a union once run by a mobster James Bernardone was sentenced to two years in prison for mob kickbacks relating to the construction industry, but his connection with the mafia is arguable and he is often seen as the government pounding any nail they can find to "send a message" to organized crime in New York. Many other industries require kickbacks. Lawyers, politicians, and certainly the healthcare and pharmaceutical industries all partake in and benefit from lucrative kickbacks that are simply never discussed because "business" is somehow more credible than "mafia" in the context of illicit gains.

Bernardone still receies a pension. Shocking in this day and age we've identified an industry that isnt complicit in grinding men to dust at the command of societies lust for biblical retribution after having served their prison sentence. most reformed criminals exiting the penal system are stripped of their voting right, barred from employment, and relegated to relapsing into the criminal system they were ostensibly rehabilitated from.


> most reformed criminals exiting the penal system are stripped of their voting right

Actually, most states let felons vote after completing their sentences[0], but in general our penal system makes reintegration into normal society hard.

[0]: http://www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/felon-v...


When you quote something and then comment on it, could you leave a blank line in between? Otherwise your quote and comment run together and it is hard to tell which is which.




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