>The harms that come from being poor are not the same as those that come from being a member of a historically disfavored minority.
That's where you are fundamentally wrong. Every person who worries about where their next meal is going to come from, or whether or not they are going to be homeless next month because they can't afford the rent is equally important. Nothing matters less than the "historical" reasons why people are mired in poverty. What matters is that we have a fundamentally broken society where hundreds of millions of Americans are a paycheck away from being destitute. There are far more whites than blacks living in poverty. The destitute white child living in a trailer in Appalachia, born to a single, drug-addicted mother has absolutely no privilege. To suggest that we should favor someone of a different skin color because their ancestors had different historical disadvantages is absolutely absurd.
>But we if solely address the class-based harms, we ratify and perpetuate the race-based harms.
Again, your logic is absolutely upside down. By codifying race-based favoritism, we are perpetuating the racist policies of the past that you are decrying. Suggesting that we should factor the skin color of the child born into a poverty-ridden, drug-addicted slum when considering how much help he deserves from society is not only disgusting, its offensive. That it is our official national policy is an absolute disgrace, and one of many symptoms of our sick society. If we want to evolve as a society, we need to move past our archaic, artificially created divisions. Those of you who seek to judge people based on the color of their skin are all the same, whether or not you wear the hoods.
We're not "codifying race-based favoritism". I don't think you're reading what I'm writing. That's OK; there's no reason we'd expect the two of us to resolve this debate on HN.
Is this person debating, or just acting economically? Does a moth fly towards the light because it believes in any explicit ideas in its brain, or because statistically moths flying towards light means a better off situation for moths as a whole? Does a baby _decide_ to cry?
That's where you are fundamentally wrong. Every person who worries about where their next meal is going to come from, or whether or not they are going to be homeless next month because they can't afford the rent is equally important. Nothing matters less than the "historical" reasons why people are mired in poverty. What matters is that we have a fundamentally broken society where hundreds of millions of Americans are a paycheck away from being destitute. There are far more whites than blacks living in poverty. The destitute white child living in a trailer in Appalachia, born to a single, drug-addicted mother has absolutely no privilege. To suggest that we should favor someone of a different skin color because their ancestors had different historical disadvantages is absolutely absurd.
>But we if solely address the class-based harms, we ratify and perpetuate the race-based harms.
Again, your logic is absolutely upside down. By codifying race-based favoritism, we are perpetuating the racist policies of the past that you are decrying. Suggesting that we should factor the skin color of the child born into a poverty-ridden, drug-addicted slum when considering how much help he deserves from society is not only disgusting, its offensive. That it is our official national policy is an absolute disgrace, and one of many symptoms of our sick society. If we want to evolve as a society, we need to move past our archaic, artificially created divisions. Those of you who seek to judge people based on the color of their skin are all the same, whether or not you wear the hoods.