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he seems to be purchasing influence/control by offering "jobs" to the people in charge of various IRC projects, publicly: freenode[1], kiwiirc[2] (and presumably snoonet) -- I've been told there are others (not public info)

he's also brought on board the disgraced mt. gox CEO as CTO -- what on earth is he up to?

[1] https://freenode.net/news/pia-fn: "Some of you might also find yourselves dealing with me in my new role as Director of Sponsorship and Events at Private Internet Access"

[2] https://kiwiirc.com/blog/Kiwi_IRC_gets_sponsored_by_PrivateI...

[3] https://www.newsbtc.com/2018/04/19/disgraced-ceo-of-mt-gox-a...




Kiwi IRC developer here that was sponsored and hired by LTM back in November, so I can give you a first hand account of how things are playing out.

Andrew is very passionate about IRC as you can see from the post. Most people developing IRC projects do it in their spare time which makes progressing them difficult. This was my personal position back in November. Since I was hired, I have been able to work on Kiwi IRC, introduce many new features and grow the project, all while the project is still open source. The biggest part - Andrew/LTM does not own kiwiirc. That is purely a separate project that he wanted to grow and he did so without taking ownership of it.

I have always been pushing for open sourcing projects - especially in the IRC community as it needs projects to flourish to compete with alternative and closed sourced messaging systems. I am now starting irc.com with funding from Andrew and London Trust Media with the exact same mindset. Hopefully we can combine and push IRC standards with the existing IRC community - that is, existing IRC server and client developers that may not have anything to do with irc.com.

For the IRC networks such as freenode, they are a vital network for open source developers and communities which I think we can all agree would be very upsetting if that was to be interrupted. London Trust Media has had no interference with the running of the network and does not plan to, other than providing sponsor support to keep the servers running.


those are nice observations you have as his patron, but you didn't really answer my question

it's not normal for a self-described businessman to give out money for free: so what's his long term plan behind all of this?

> For the IRC networks such as freenode, they are a vital network for open source developers and communities which I think we can all agree would be very upsetting if that was to be interrupted.

this statement is so disingenuous it sounds like the product of a PR department

running a large IRC network in 2018 can be done on AWS/GCP for hobby scale money, so it's not as if freenode risks disappearing without his patronage... however your/christel's income would, hence my (and others) concerns about the purchase of influence

(personally: if my "employer" hired Karpeles as their CTO I'd be out of there so fast it'd make your head spin)


His long term plan as his post mentions, is to grow and push IRC so that we can support large communities on IRC instead of them migrating to closed platforms. It's not normal for a businessman to spend so much money on this type of plan, I perfectly agree. But I've seen it happen, along with other IRC and open source projects that have nothing to do with LTM. See here for all the open source projects that a VPN supports without anything coming from it. https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/pages/companies-we-spo...

As for running a large IRC network, it's not just about the cost. It's the management, the running of the network, dealing with its users, etc. Protecting yourself from DDOS that still unfortunately happens amongst other attacks. It's not as simple as throwing it on "AWS/GCP for hobby scale money". (I say say that even though I don't run freenode).


> it's not normal for a self-described businessman to give out money for free

If that’s not normal then I don’t want to ever be normal.


You're confusing business with charity. Business should never give out money for free, it wouldn't make sense.


Not all people work for money, sir.

I don’t.


I love this statement.


I’ve heard a lot of that, too – client devs getting approached and offered jobs with PIA.

I’ve gotten an "offer" once, too, inofficially, but I assume it was just a joke from them.


What was the offer?


It never got that far. They asked if I’d be interested in a job with them, I said no, never, and it stopped there.

As said, I assume they didn’t mean it seriously.




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