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> It includes a broad range of components used in electronics manufacturing, specifically naming touchscreens, batteries, and electric motors. General components like transistors are also named on the list as well as more specific components used in televisions, cameras, and radio receivers. [..] Notably, the list does not include cellphones or completed televisions.

So, this will, er, serve to discourage companies from making consumer goods in the US, with buying consumer goods from China becoming relatively more attractive? Doesn't seem very well thought out.




Made in USA electronics goods are now more expensive via tariffs because the equipment and the components are now more expensive. Brilliant.


Well, more likely the companies making them will just move production elsewhere or go out of business. Components are big part of the cost of your average consumer device, and margins mostly aren't high.


It depends a lot on exactly what kind of production facilities we’re talking about moving. Simple plastic injection mold shops? Sure, maybe. Multi-billion dollar chip fab plants? Not so much.


Right. It is extraordinarily difficult to just pack up a high-tech factory and move it to another country. Actually moving the plant and machines is the easiest part, the hard part is the people. Training people to be experts at high tech jobs takes a lot of time, and even then you're losing the decades of experience and the high concentration of likewise experienced and well-trained suppliers nearby.

Of course we could just move the people here too, but our current immigration policy doesn't seem too fond of that approach either.


I'd say the other hard part is finding manufacturers you can trust. You have to think that you're basically exporting company secrets when you manufacture offshore.


Taiwan fabricates chips. PRC doesn't.


Seems like a good guise for industry leaders to move operations of out the US in a climate where political sentiment is high for keeping it here.


Another reading is that the thought going in to the tariffs was not directed toward helping Americans, but rather creating headlines big enough to crowd out reporting on the various scandals of the administration.

Ever seen "Wag The Dog?"


He bombed Syria right after some bad news. I think he's well aware of the concept.


Trump has been talking about the need for tariffs and industrial policy since the 1980s. This is not some scheme he's cooked up on the spur of the moment.


When it comes to Trump (as a non-American) the old saying "Never attribute to malice what can be explained by stupidity" breaks down.

With him and the people he surrounds himself with, inept would be an improvement.

He managed to piss off the Canadians ffs, Thats the diplomatic equivalent to punching a friendly puppy.

Also is anyone during or after Trump ever going to trust anything with a US signature on again... I can't see it.


There’s an extension to Hanlon’s Razor that too many forget:

“Never attribute to malice what can be explained by stupidity, but don’t dismiss malice.”


Any coincidence that Foxconn is building a large display factory in Wisconsin?


The $4 billion in incentives and waiving of environmental reviews had absolutely nothing to do with it: http://money.cnn.com/2017/12/28/news/companies/foxconn-wisco...


The Foxconn plant deal in Wisconsin is just so disgracefully bad - over $4B in incentives to get 3,000 jobs. That's over a million per employee.

It's very reminiscent of sports stadium deals. Except the companies that run sports teams typically haven't had to put suicide nets around their buildings.


I think that's been in the works for a while, long before any of this tariff talk has been happening. Might have been before trump came into office, but I can't remember for sure


No, Foxconn came along after the election. Trump has been carrying it around as one of his bigger economic successes.

I just have to wonder if Foxconn is now turning the screws to Trump. Give us some protection against the other Chinese display manufacturers or we'll scale down the project.


Is it too late to restore America's capacity to manufacture fundamental goods like steel and electronics components?




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