On: Apple rejects Valve’s Steam Link game streaming ap...

[LUmBULtERA]

They've just made a huge mistake. Upset the hardcore gamers market to stop essentially a remote desktop app?

[skc → LUmBULtERA]

I doubt there is much overlap between the hardcore gamer market and Apple anyway.

[asfasgasg → skc]

On the contrary. If you care about the intersection of gaming and mobile, you are almost certainly using an iOS device.

[bovermyer → asfasgasg]

Every single one of the hardcore gamers that I know is dismissive of mobile games, at best.

[sidlls → asfasgasg]

The intersection of the set of "intersection of gaming and mobile" and the set of "hardcore gamers" is small.

[OrganicMSG → sidlls]

I know a few of them, they are all game developers.

[yvdriess → skc]

Plenty of overlap. Ipad stream-gaming on the couch while the wife watches TV, for example.

[zkomp → yvdriess]

Yes yes and yes.

So now it is totally possible, you just must avoid iPads (face palm)

Essentialy Apple want force me buy some android tablet, smart move...

[dkersten → zkomp]

As someone who loves his iPad, this makes me sad. It’s not enough for me to abandon it but it’ll definitely make the upgrade decision tougher when the time comes.

Does iPad even support Xbox1/PS4/steam controllers? Last time I checked, at least PS4 gamepads did not work on ios. Without those (certainly Xbox and PS4 ones), I’m not sure I’d want to stream games onto an iPad anyway (not that this makes it better, if anything it makes it worse).

[swebs → skc]

We're talking about iOS, not OSX. There's a huge overlap.

[rafadc → LUmBULtERA]

I guess the problem is the store. The app allows to access valve's store (which is far cheaper than games in the apple store). If they remove the ability to buy games I am sure the remote desktop app would be ok.

I am guessing anyway

[Ragnarork → rafadc]

I have a hard time with this explanation, as the Steam Store is already available through the iOS Steam app which is available on the Apple app store.

[LiquidFlux → Ragnarork]

I'm assuming it could be relating to the inability to play a game you've just bought, if limited to just the Steam Store app.

That alone isn't exactly competition against the first-party's store.

[JetSetWilly → Ragnarork]

You can't buy games using the Steam Store app.

[icecreammatt → JetSetWilly]

You can buy games with the existing Steam app. I do it all the time during the sales.

[JetSetWilly → icecreammatt]

My bad, I remember trying to before and being unable to, I just assumed it would be the same situation as the kindle app.

[boterock → JetSetWilly]

You can't buy games that are in the iOS store from within the Steam app

[falsedan → JetSetWilly]

The Steam app? You sure as heck can buy games through it.

[izacus → rafadc]

Wait so TeamViewer, Remote Desktop etc. are all banned in the Apple world because I can use them to buy things from other stores?

[knolan → rafadc]

And yet the Steam Store app is available on the iOS App Store.

This is a very strange decision.

[bantunes → knolan]

It's a fluff app for messaging and so on, no actual gaming.

[AlexandrB → bantunes]

Yes, but it allows access to the store - directly contradicting rafadc's theory.

[Zircom → AlexandrB]

The difference is in the steam store app doesn't actually enable you to play the games on the phone itself, while the steam link app will let you do exactly that.

[falsedan → Zircom]

> so TeamViewer, Remote Desktop etc. are all banned

[LiquidFlux → falsedan]

If they were wrapped up in a single package that was marketed towards buying and playing those games, using the same logic they quite probably would be.

[krisdol → LiquidFlux]

So steam should release a game streaming app that’s separate from a store app.

[282883392 → krisdol]

But they disabled the store on the streaming app. So in function it was separate.

[Orphis → rafadc]

You know what let's me access the Steam store (and many others)? Any VNC client to my other computer.

Or just the regular Steam app. Check the screenshot page on the AppStore and you'll see the store with prices and all.

[AsyncAwait → rafadc]

Valve has said that they disabled the store and got blocked anyway.

[tyfon → rafadc]

I don't have any apple products, however can you buy a RDC app and remote to windows and buy apps in the windows store?

[kabdib → rafadc]

The ability to buy games was removed from the Steam Link app.

[salvar → LUmBULtERA]

How are you expecting the hardcore gamers market to retaliate against Apple?

[jenscow → salvar]

They will post on forums threatening to throw their iPhones away.

[usrusr → LUmBULtERA]

Angering gamers might not be all that bad though, as it would bolster the "Apple is for serious creative work" part of their brand identity.