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This is largely the way things are in Jerusalem. There is tons of trash all over the place, stuffed into crevices and just loose on the street. It seems to be largely ignored by the locals (it is like this even in very non-touristy areas as well, so it's not just messy tourists).



I took a quick look at the google on this topic and found this:

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/MAGAZINE-total-rubbish-w...

That is incredible. I have been all over the US in many, many parks over 40 years and never once, anywhere, did I see a pile of trash like this. Even in the early 80s this never happened at a park. (I know many, many other countries are way worse, but being 3rd world is at least a partial excuse)

In a big city, in a few places, (I lived on the streets for a bit in a few big cities) there wasn't even trash like this. Even the worst places in Portland, LA and other big cities, unless it was a total slum, it was not like this.

Anywhere there their is a public interest, the US actually gives a crap about keeping it clean. It's surprising how other cultures give the US such a hard time about "recycling" and "being green", I am about to be sick of hearing it.

Considering the size and magnitude of the park systems in the US, we are one of the cleanest, greenest friggin nations the world as ever known. (besides the nasty pollution from factories, but that is another issue)


> I took a quick look at the google on this topic and found this: > https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/MAGAZINE-total-rubbish-w....

You wouldn't nothing close to Tel Aviv garbage piles in Givatayim, Raanana, Herzliya or Netanya, but at the same time Yaffo, but somehow, Jaffa, Acre and Jerusalem have it much worse. (And before I get accused of racism, Bnei Brak and Mea Shearim are just as bad, with Tiberias getting worse every year.)

Israel is a very heterogenous country, with different communities having radically different lifestyles and ideals - reality that this Haaretz piece completely ignores.


I suspected as much. It doesn't seem worth the flame war (accusation of racism) online to even approach discussing that one group of people are naturally "messy" (for lack of a better term) while another is not.

I find it amusing though that since I don't know the language or the area, I have no idea what any of the names you listed implies. Maybe that's good.


Jewish cities with a (relatively) not religious and wealthy population, Muslim Arab and mixed cities, and finally orthodox Jewish cities (which Tiberias, as many other northern cities, is rapidly becoming). Correlation with wealth and religion is pretty obvious.


>Correlation with wealth and religion is pretty obvious.

This seems odd, in the US, the more wealth (and I would say possibly some religions) the more likely there are either volunteer projects or budgets for cleaning up public areas.

Is this unique to the US?


Reverse correlation with wealth and proportional correlation with religion, I should've probably been more clear about that




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