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New Twitter has Gist Support (thechangelog.com)
76 points by vamsee on Sept 19, 2010 | hide | past | favorite | 24 comments



I'm skeptical.

Twitter's beauty resides in its 140-char limit: authors of Tweets don't feel burdened to write long messages, and readers know the messages will always be short and sweet. Sure, authors can circumvent this limit by linking to blog posts, but followers hate clicking on links so there's a disincentive to do so.

With these new changes, Twitter is making it easier for readers to visit linked content, but they're also making it easier for Tweet authors to be more verbose. Before, I had to painstakingly craft my 140-char message; but now if I'm having trouble doing that, I can just use the Tweet as a title and write my full message in an embedded text box. But isn't this just reinventing the blog?


Net users are hurried; they read summaries; they scan. Tweets nailed a 'headline/one-sentence' need; the hard limit was a part of the winningness.

Maybe, though, there's a series of gradual expansions of the attention you're willing to dedicate a thought, thread, person, or topic. There's the Tweet; there's a bit more context; there's a paragraph or two; there's a running conversation; there's an essay; there's a book.

The Tweet is still the gateway -- and you still need to be short and sweet there. But Twitter, Inc. wants -- and perhaps needs for a sustainable business model -- to play a role in your next few escalations-of-attention, in the direction that the Tweet sent you. NewTwitter (and t.co) are parts of their strategy to stay involved.

NewTwitter seems a little rough to me, so far -- so much new UI, so many sizes/intensities/colors of text, some new 'modes'. But, if they manage to give you just the context/followup info you want, in a manner less wasteful of screen and gestures then other options, it could be a win for them. And if you don't want all that second-pane stuff -- it's easy enough to ignore, or use a minimalist interface instead. The reader still needs to demonstrate interest with a click to see followup info, so Tweet-authors can't change their style too much. It's just that click-showing-interest may be easier for the user -- not requiring a full-page load or new web tab.


"but followers hate clicking on links"

Can you qualify this statement? I don't hate clicking on links.


I cant bring up the exact stats right now, but everything I have seen would suggest the same, if I remember off the top of my head 2 things with a reasonably large reach on twitter ( between 100,000 and 1,000,000) had around 0.5% clickthrough rates, that struck me as tiny.


That would seem to be consistent with the statistics of users with less followers: http://twitterfacts.blogspot.com/2008/06/tweetburner-clickth...

However I would consider clickthrough rates to be a poorly suited metric for Twitter. If you're not using Twitter to just follow your friends then your typical use case is just dipping in and reading some tweets when you have the time (the 'fire hose' model). Having one million followers does not mean that one million people will read a given tweet.


" But isn't this just reinventing the blog?"

Or Friendfeed.


Any other things people want in the right panel?


3rd party plugins so that I can get evernote or snaptic or remember the milk or whatever third party content to display in there.

there are a million and one public custom data sources, don't let us be constrained by the ones you bless.

or if you don't want to deal with the security headaches, just allow a standard way for 3rd parties to inform twitter that their content is #newtwitter friendly and allow it to display formatted text.

basically, instead of using twitter through all of those sites, I just want to go to twitter and have all my content there and not be redirected all over the web (or at least have the option).

and 'lest I sound too demanding, great work and congratulations :)


basically, instead of using twitter through all of those sites, I just want to go to twitter and have all my content there and not be redirected all over the web (or at least have the option).

Just what we need, a new, centralized portal website. Oh, that reminds me, I need to go add some widgets to my iGoogle page.


a portal comprised 100% of content that my friends recommend? yes please!


They could do that with an iframe. Third parties can provide embeddable content as plain old HTML pages. No need for yet another plugin format.


Plain old HTML pages can still run all kinds of scripts.


Maybe oEmbed support? http://www.oembed.com/


I'd like access to the pretty right panel ;)


I'll second that :)


Letting any third party have the ability to put stuff on the right panel would be awesome, even if it would lead to FarmVille on Twitter pretty quickly...


Pastebin perhaps? And Reddit posts, they have a nice API.


I haven't got the new twitter yet, but I'd like to know what I must do so that if somebody tweets a URL to my site (video) that the video will show in the right panel. Facebook has a form where you submit your page and they approve you. Will you be providing something similar?


contentpartnerships@twitter.com


I'd like to think that if I ever created something like Twitter, I'd do cool things like this, too.

I hope they keep it up.


When you do...Please don't crush your developer community.


Where's the crushing?


I guess it makes it easier to fit crazy programs into a single tweet ;-)


As much as this pleasures every software-engineer-neuron in my brain, this kills what's so great about Twitter - it's brevity.

Twitter + Tumblr/Facebook Angst = #NewTwitter = #FailTwitter :(




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