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I concur, and I would add that Apple is fundamentally different than the Facebooks and Googles in that Apple makes money off their hardware. They have a natural incentive to protect user data because it enhances the value of their products.



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I wonder if it’s worth it to let corporations know when they do something we like.

They can’t do much about China. But they can get away with a lot in other countries.


They could choose not to sell in China


And who would benefit from that?


Like.. buying a product?


I'm not sure that's fine grained enough. Apple isn't perfect. But they do specific things that I like enough to keep buying Apple stuff.


This is why I am deeply skeptical of Apple's supposed security. As long as the company forfeits data to the Chinese government then there is no real data protection on their devices.

I need that to change, or where I see Apple's products heading is not going to be what I'm hoping. What I'm hoping: Apple devices become the computer. Totally secure. The only one that can access the information on it is myself with no exceptions. This device (watch, phone, glasses whatever) would carry every possible detail about myself and my life on it, making it the perfect form of digital identification. Accepted at hospitals, accepted as a drivers license, accepted at banks, accepted as a log in for websites. It doesn't need to provide identification if I don't want it to. But if I do, then there is a mathematical certainty that I am who I am claiming to be, and no one can claim otherwise.


So, you want to put that much power into Apple's hands? How do you expect them to remain on your side in that case?


That's why it's not going to happen with Apple's two faced position on privacy.

As for what I want Apple to be as a company, if their devices become the theoretical vault where I am the only one with the key, it wouldn't matter if they remain on my side or not. They fulfill the role of design and engineering, not data hoarder, and wouldn't be able to change that even if they wanted to. At least that is the image that they have been pushing recently.




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