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C64 RPi 3 conversion (amigalove.com)
97 points by erickhill on May 2, 2018 | hide | past | favorite | 26 comments



Poor C64. If I were to reactivate my old C64 for a project, I'd much rather keep the C64 intact and somehow try to connect a RPi externally. Maybe emulate a 1541 drive to transfer data from a network share? Are there are any projects or guides that do something like that?


The issues are usually on the video side - converting retro computer output to something that looks good on modern monitors or TVs usually requires scanline converters which cost significant amount of money.


I would imagine so because there are guides for do that with most 8bit micros. You can also get SD card readers that announce themselves as floppy disk drives for most retro computers (I've got an Amstrad CPC 464, BBC Micro and Atari ST all with various modern tech attached without altering the original hardware in any way shape or form).


You can buy new remolded 64c cases. That's probably a better compromise than destroying yet another unit.


Agreed. This is vandalism, it's horrible.


I didn't check much so I ask here. What about :

- scrolling quality (I appreciated C64 for its 50/60fps scrollings, but in my experience, emulators screw that)

- graphics quality (usually, once on digital screen, all the NTSC/PAL artefacts disappears, making the graphics quite different from an original C64)


the NTSC/PAL artefacts disappears

On an LCD screen however, there's a whole new set of artefacts appear .. mostly vertical lines. There's ways to address this, some are more involved [0] than others [1]

[0] https://www.videogameperfection.com/2016/08/17/lumafix-64-re...

[1] http://sta.c64.org/cbmsvideo.html


Not so much a "conversion" as sticking an emulator in a C-64 box.

No cartridge port, user port, a/v port (important for audio in), or cassette port (important for power). So no interesting hardware add-ons will work with this.

All you can do is run software that came on a floppy disk. While that's the majority of software, if you're doing this you're a hardware tinkerer. And the C-64's hardware add-ons were amazingly diverse and interesting.


I'm doing something similar with a Sega Megadrive/Genesis.

However the plan is, unlike here, to add support for real hardware. For example:

  - reading real cartridges (already have a breakout board for this)
  - supporting original controllers (already done, inc 4 way adapters)
  - supporting the expansion port (no idea how, but shouldn't be *awful* to do).
The key to me is the support for original hardware while updating the machine to also support more modern things (like HDD, USB, Bluetooth, Wifi/ethernet, etc)


This hurts to see. Poor C64.


It says that the mounts do not require you to drill or cut the C64 case, so, it will be fine :)


It is just put a Raspberry PI in a C64 case. I wonder if it can be done with those Kickstarter C64C cases?


Why not?


It still needs a real keyboard matching the case holes.


That's coming http://www.breadbox64.com/blog/c64-keyboard-prototype/

If Phase 5 would deliver the replacement keycaps from their crowdfunded campaign three years ago we'd be able to do these conversions without touching a real 64. I haven't given up hope -- the machinery and molds are being moved to a company that specializes in this kind of low-volume production.


This is amazing.

Maybe with these we could finally build the Commodore 256 ;-)


Would you settle for a Commodore 65 clone with a 50MHz processor, 800x600 video @ 8.3 million colors, Ethernet, etc.? http://mega65.org/


I would still like to design a 64-bit 65064 processor.


Or you can just buy a broken C64 to do this, plenty of them on ebay.


Old micro computers tend to be easy to repair. Given replicas of most retro hardware exists these days I'm generally of the opinion that I'd rather see original retro hardware restored rather than hacked. But ultimately it's not my place to say who can do what to their hardware otherwise - particularly since I'm the kind of guy who also like to hack their own modern devices as well.


Yeah, they are easy to repair, but I think the main point is that they are plentiful. I don't think a few little projects like this are going to put a dent in the overall market supply.

At least, I hope they don't.


The problem is that is that the demand is already quite high at the moment (retro is cool is seems) and the supply is only finite. Given there are decent enough reproductions I feel it seems a little ill-advised hacking the irreplaceable originals as once they're gone they're gone for good.

Plus if we are completely honest, a refurbished original would also have more longevity than one with a raspberry pi which will have an initial novelty factor but then quickly get forgotten about once the Pi becomes obsolete.


They tend to be very easy to fix.

That said, it's not like the C64 is rare. I'd be more concerned about someone doing this to an Altair or a Lisa...


I hope no C64 had to suffer in the making of this.


Would love to see one for C128 with 80 line mode emulation.


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Insightful!




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