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> It IS lower compared to human error,

What is lower and compared to what? I am tired of this vague misleading statements by Elon musk, Tesla and their supporters.

They claimed Autopilot + driver is 40% safer than a driver alone. And that includes Automatic emergency braking. Is it a surprise that AEB reduces accidents?

Why is that used as proof that Tesla's software is FSD. FSD implies that the car is capable of driving without a driver.

Is Autopilot alone safer than a driver? There is no proof of that

But what you should compare is Autopilot alone compared with a driver assisted by Autopilot. So, is Autopilot better than Driver+Autopilot? I can assure you its not, the driver still adds value.




Its crazy how reasonable ycombinator is compared to reddit.

Reddit is dominated by tesla's marketing team. Upvoting, downvoting, and commenting.

Here you get a real discussion regarding Elon's outlandish promises.




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