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So I want to address the people downvoting you. Last summer I went to Big Horn. The town next to it was somehow more third world than where I'm from, the Deep South. Examples:

* Google maps told me to get off at Exit 29B. It turns out it was exit 298, just somehow Google maps had only OCRed the signs, and as of summer 2017 no one had cared to correct them.

* Screw LTE or 3G, somehow the city center only had 2G. Outside of the city, even with visible line of sight, there was simply no service.

* I ordered biscuits and gravy at a restaurant for breakfast. I was informed that it would be a few minutes, as the owner's daughter needed to go down to the grocery store and pick up another can of biscuits.

* At said restaurant, I was asked if I wanted smoking or non. The two rooms had no separation, and both were filled with smoke.

I love Wyoming, it's a beautiful state and I'll be back this year, but they aren't going to be the next forefront on cybersecurity.




One time I went to San Fransisco and literally waited 30 minutes to go three blocks.

Then I went to a restaurant and was charged $15 for coffee.

There also seemed to be a lot of people who had become homeless.

Terribly slow and difficult city; I don't see how it gets anything done.


I'm not just saying that Wyoming has negative properties (everywhere has tradeoffs).

I'm saying that Wyoming doesn't have the physical, financial, and educational infrastructure to support a modern computer industry.

EDIT: also, I don't live in San Fran.


You went to a single unincorporated town in with a couple hundred people, and think that is somehow reflective on the greater part of Wyoming.


I'm from Colorado and have been going to different parts of Wyoming several times a year for nearly a decade.

Outside of Cheyenne and Jackson Hole, what I listed is extremely representative of Wyoming. Cheyenne isn't much better, and the whole point of Jackson Hole is to get away from computers for a while.

Edit: also this was Buffalo, so it was a full on incorporated city of thousands.


Ha! I know that restaurant. Pretty abysmal - but I think it's the only place in town that's quite that bad.

But the town does have two redboxes, so it's got that going for it...

I know a couple of people in that area (a bit up the mountain to the east) that choose to live there. One is a CostCo executive that is the regional manager some vertical (I want to say produce, but that might not be right) for most of the stores of the north half of everything west of the rockies. He's on the road a lot, but seems to want to live there. The other is an IT guy (well, internal developer) for Whole Foods and moved there and works remotely. Now - Montana is a more common place for remote hermit developers to go to, but a shocking number of retired/retiring people move to Buffalo. (Well, shocking to me because I wouldn't, but for a town of 4,500-or-so of that particular average age, having the influx-rate match (or exceed) the death-rate is in itself surprising (to me). It also fluctuates a lot with oil & natural gas prices -- I think the population was down around 3,000 by mid-2015)


Ah, you had mentioned Big Horn; I didn't understand you were talking about Buffalo 40 miles south.

Indeed, Casper then Cheyenne have the most modern economic situation Wyoming has to offer.


> Indeed, Casper then Cheyenne have the most modern economic situation Wyoming has to offer.

Which is still pretty shitty. I live in Casper, and tech jobs are basically non-existent. I know of some places that hire people for PLC stuff. Outside of that there are three places I could work as a developer.

Cheyenne may be different. I've noticed they have tech meetups, a tech bootcamp, etc.

The root post on this is harsh but accurate in my opinion.


Big Horn, the National Forest, not the town of less than 500.




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