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> Because when enough of us care, we can change the sandbox itself.

no need to wait, you can change the sandbox right now, you can create your own startup and give equal ownership to everyone.




I could do that.

And, at the same time, my fellow techies in any given megacorp (I'm not in one now, used to be long ago) can start organizing and negotiating together, to establish better working conditions, better pay, more autonomy, more of a say in how the company is run.

This isn't an either/or situation.


> I could do that.

“Be the change you wish to see in the world.” Mahatma Gandhi


Right?? Why do you think I'm writing about how much better we could make our working conditions, if we organized and negotiated together?

These ideas and methods aren't new (organizing and negotiating together), and they've been largely effective in this country and elsewhere.

And, hey, like I said to the other person, you don't have to do it, if you're happy with the crumbs the owners toss your way. You do you.

For the rest of us, we don't have to be content with our lot in life--we can be the change we wish to see. Good quote!


Equal ownership of something that’s likely to be zero.


> Equal ownership of something that’s likely to be zero.

I dunno; co-ops have been successful in other areas of endeavor. It's as reasonable a way of organizing a company as any other.

I mean, mostly they are businesses that provide goods and services for money; businesses who's value rests mostly at their profit in a point in time, but it's possible you could come up with a co-op like structure that would work for a tech company where a lot of the value is in the company and getting the company bought out by a larger entity.

I don't know how you'd do it, but I don't see any reason why it couldn't be done.

I can tell you that as a tech worker with options, I would be whole hell of a lot more likely to join a pre-IPO company if they structured the thing in a way that was more transparent and respectful to the workers when it came to the equity component of their compensation.




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