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What in the world would lead you to believe if the Chinese can monitor your phone, that the US can't? That's so far out there in terms of logic, I can hardly imagine where you're coming from.

This entire thread is overloaded with posts that seem to not understand the US intelligence system, its legal authority, how FISA works, how the court system works, et al.

I keep seeing people say that they might be better off with their information outside of the US, because China or Russia can't arrest them if they reside in the US. If your information is outside the US, transited to a foreign service provider, you just dramatically increased the US Government's authority to target your information.




adventured says >"What in the world would lead you to believe if the Chinese can monitor your phone, that the US can't? That's so far out there in terms of logic, I can hardly imagine where you're coming from."

Firstly, What makes you think you know and can state here what I believe? You have no idea.

Secondly, I don't believe that. But I do believe that surveillance is a constantly-changing game (like stepping into a river) and a Chinese vendor will be slower to provide updates to USA intelligence agencies than will a domestic vendor. Hell, domestic communications vendors have willingly followed the instructions of the 3-letter agencies. The time lag could allow one to avoid surveillance.

adventured says >"This entire thread is overloaded with posts that seem to not understand the US intelligence system, its legal authority, how FISA works, how the court system works, et al."

Best to save your breath and worry about the gaps in your own knowledge.

adventured says >"I keep seeing people say that they might be better off with their information outside of the US, because China or Russia can't arrest them if they reside in the US. If your information is outside the US, transited to a foreign service provider, you just dramatically increased the US Government's authority to target your information."

Firstly, that was true for awhile but not now. Foreign or domestic, your data is being collected and is being examined by computers, indexed and stored for future reference. We're already at "Big Brother".

Secondly, I'd like to see the FBI try to bring evidence to a U.S. criminal court that was collected by almost any foreign government's intelligence services. That would be a fast track to dismissal of charges.




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