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Do you have a child? Wait, that is a rhetorical question: you don't. Because if you did you would realise that this statement makes little sense, unless you specifically decided to have children as a form of economic investment, which is unlikely because it's probably the worst economic investment you can make.


Would you be a surrogate parent for 1M? What if they wanted to wait a dozen years before adopting from you?


Would you perhaps like to watch the video I linked and spend some time on personal growth, instead of wasting it on attempts at being edgy with extremely predictable hypotheticals?


I've taken up your offer, & am watching video you linked to. I'm not interested in the personal growth you're suggesting though; I've already been spending some time thinking about how I can behave empathetically to those around me without being a sociopath since I don't actually feel empathetic towards them. Mostly I've focused on not being aggressively cynical. My life's functioning pretty well as is, but I did recently go through a break up of a 6 year relationship where a part of it had to do with my inability to form deep emotional connections. Which is a part of my life going well: I am happier not being in a relationship I'm incapable of supporting

Predictable hypotheticals are predictable because they're based on a simple premise that you yourself are able to consider. The thing about cost is that we can show how much people are willing to be selfish when it's 'sacred' or 'righteous': if children are valuable, why not sell your child for 1M, & then spend that helping a dozen kids from Haiti? https://abcnews.go.com/Nightline/buy-child-10-hours/story?id... . It's because you've decided your one child is more valuable than 12 others. You care about your child because it's _yours_. An extension of you. So here's shown that you're greatly overvaluing yourself at the sake of others


So what I'm taking away from that video is that sacred things which give people a sense of meaing causes them to do irrational things as stupid as suicide bombing. Seems to support my perspective that nihilism is a great way of life that helps people lead rational lives free from that mindfuck that's religion (& by inclusion of children coddling in sacredness, that too)

But I can see why he has to say we should be using idealism to sway those taken in by idealism: nihilism doesn't generally push itself through fanatics, it lives on by being a simple rational idea that one has to personally consider & then realize. Gets into ideas of "The Selfish Gene" & needing some way to inoculate against these ideas which press on because they are self serving rather than rationally founded


you know how I know you're just being edgy and not actually a sociopath? sociopath don't feel guilt/shame about their sociopathy and therefore don't broadcast it in search of validation - your original comment was bait intended to draw someone into this debate wherein you could validate yourself. my guess? your distraught over your recent break up (whose cause you've reductively concluded was "sociopathy but actually was probably just some mixture of arrogance and selfishness) and you're narcissistic enough to participate in this charade rather than introspect on.


I haven't claimed to be a sociopath-- I know I'm not one. I'm not manipulative. Similarly I'm not a narcissistic because I don't have an exaggerated feeling of self importance: I believe everyone, including myself, is worthless. In person people find me selfless, & other times selfish. You've observed the latter aspect. I've only claimed to be a nihilist & rationally inclined. Being apathetic doesn't make someone a sociopath

Not sure where validation has come into this. I fumbled pointing out that there should be room for considering what the cost of a life is worth, & was instead met with attacks on my character. You're going out on a limb, making assumptions based on the slightest bit of information you've been given. Kind of goes along with my whole point about nihilism not pressing its ideology: people who have some righteous stance press their assumptions on others

Now in being told I was only giving predictable hypotheticals I decided to open up, reveal some raw humanity. But it's a kind of catch-22 fallacy: you're a charade whether responses are facetious or sincere. Similar to the catch-22 fallacy of having to be distraught over a break up because either you're torn up over it or you're just acting like you're not

Introspection happens, most often internally, but sometimes I drop a line into the id, hooking on to something: https://serprex.github.io/w/%3b but go on, reject an alternative human experience, label it 'edgy'


If you are dirt poor in a dirt poor country it is actually not a bad investment.


Sure, but the example served to illustrate which sacred values are left in secular Western societies.

If one's first urge is to then reply with "yes I would sell my child!" that only proves two, highly related, things. One, that this person completely missed the point. Two, that this person is apparently unable to get over themselves, since the discussion is clearly not about them, yet they somehow manage to interpret it in a way that is all about them.


That is sociopathic reasoning.




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