I just want to say I've cross trained SWAT and other LEA's, and other countries militaries etc while I was in the military, and as a combat vet I cannot express how scary some of these groups are due to realizing the makeup of their teams. Lack of trigger control, lack of tactics, too little training, and fragile egos combined with a "war" mindset results in this sort of thing. The kicker is you would be amazed at how many of the swat guys I met were noncombat pog's in the military who wiggle their way onto SWAT to make up for their lack of combat oconus.
We need to be addressing these issues at the training and policy level, but the thine blue line needs to be busted up first. I knew an old school LEO who had done undercover and cartel work, and even he complained constantly to me about the death of the concept of the "peace officer".
Police forces are way too eager to be in a war zone and they are going to keep doing this shit until the public stops them, the ultimate irony is that most of these incidents are because the war-wannabes are actually cowards who get scared as shit at every blade of grass and end up emptying magazines for no reason... Essentially SWAT is mostly just COD players who grew up but couldn't handle war if they got what they think they wanted.
Its like they never heard of an OODA loop.
Oh, and let's not let this opportunity to talk about how much the cops protect rich corporations and pillars of the community at the expense of everyone else... Their pinkertonian origins make things like CIA working with them against occupy wall street that much more disturbing.
Oh and one more thing. Many of the bad escalation of force policies and training are because a huge amount of these guys get cross trained by Israelis...and I'm just going to let the implications of that sink in.
Pog = "Pogue is derogatory pejorative military slang for non-combat, staff, and other rear-echelon or support units" (in other words, REMF).
I would agree with your characterization of LEOs as cowards.
So many LEOs are bullies and thugs. Scratch the surface of a bully and you'll find a coward.
First paragraph got my upvote. Then I got to this part:
> Many of the bad escalation of force policies and training are because a huge amount of these guys get cross trained by Israelis...and I'm just going to let the implications of that sink in.
Yeah, lots of your local leo, for some reason usually sheriffs, make trips to Israel for training, or have them come to the US for it, and their methods are much more "war" oriented than American ones should be.
We need to be addressing these issues at the training and policy level, but the thine blue line needs to be busted up first. I knew an old school LEO who had done undercover and cartel work, and even he complained constantly to me about the death of the concept of the "peace officer".
Police forces are way too eager to be in a war zone and they are going to keep doing this shit until the public stops them, the ultimate irony is that most of these incidents are because the war-wannabes are actually cowards who get scared as shit at every blade of grass and end up emptying magazines for no reason... Essentially SWAT is mostly just COD players who grew up but couldn't handle war if they got what they think they wanted.
Its like they never heard of an OODA loop.
Oh, and let's not let this opportunity to talk about how much the cops protect rich corporations and pillars of the community at the expense of everyone else... Their pinkertonian origins make things like CIA working with them against occupy wall street that much more disturbing.
Oh and one more thing. Many of the bad escalation of force policies and training are because a huge amount of these guys get cross trained by Israelis...and I'm just going to let the implications of that sink in.