Hacker News new | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submit login

Greg posted a nice compilation of shady tactics used during the startup period of major internet companies at http://glinden.blogspot.com/2006/11/ruthless-enough-for-star...

A quick summary:

Facebook: Spammed Harvard Students

BitTorrent: Free Porn as Initial Bait

MySpace: Spammed >100M on Launch Date

It appears as if (slightly) shady techniques can give you the advantage you need to succeed.




BitTorrent's wasn't unethical or shady (unless you think all adult content is shady). They'd licensed the content - which was, IIRC, an kind of free teaser ad for 'LightSpeed' porn - which I remember as being an odd name for a porn site. Caused a huge fuss on Slashdot.


The version I heard was that they got it off Usenet, where it had been posted by the supplier.

Sounded like a sensible way to seed the service, really.


According to "Stealing MySpace" the guys that made MySpace were about as shady as they come: spyware, porn, spam, and snake oil about sums it up.

Comparatively, spamming Harvard seems pretty innocent.


And let us not forget the more innocent days of 1996, when putting ads on free email was considered borderline shady: http://techcrunch.com/2009/10/18/ps-i-love-you-get-your-free...


It may not be so much innocence as different cost considerations.

In 1996 bandwidth was at far more of a premium than it is now, so even the modest demands of Google AdSense would have had a much greater cost to the user.

And certainly Hotmail remains slow, though not so much for lack of bandwidth anymore.


The interesting bit here is that that tactic did come back to haunt myspace, but in a different way than you'd expect. The guys that built youtube used the same tactic but by bitting myspace users to come and use youtube.




Consider applying for YC's Spring batch! Applications are open till Feb 11.

Guidelines | FAQ | Lists | API | Security | Legal | Apply to YC | Contact

Search: