Is your argument that the only people who are allowed to be called "engineers" those who have a degree with the word "engineering" in the title?
Via Wikipedia:
"An engineer is a professional practitioner of engineering, concerned with applying scientific knowledge, mathematics and ingenuity to design and develop solutions for technological systems problems. Engineers design materials, structures, machines and systems while considering the limitations imposed by practicality, safety and cost. The word engineer is derived from the Latin root ingenium, meaning "cleverness"."
1) Fallaciously or not, I typically associate engineers with the physical world. As I am familiar with them, engineers typically design tangible things.
2) I commonly hear of math and cs degrees being considered very closely related, and math is not engineering. It is vital to engineering, and I have mad respect for mathematicians, but a mathematician is not an engineer, hence why he is called a mathematician.
2.5) do cs majors really apply science? I thought it was almost entirely math and logic.
Is your argument that the only people who are allowed to be called "engineers" those who have a degree with the word "engineering" in the title?
Via Wikipedia:
"An engineer is a professional practitioner of engineering, concerned with applying scientific knowledge, mathematics and ingenuity to design and develop solutions for technological systems problems. Engineers design materials, structures, machines and systems while considering the limitations imposed by practicality, safety and cost. The word engineer is derived from the Latin root ingenium, meaning "cleverness"."