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>The only way to prevent this is to impose fines, tariffs and penalties

The ONLY solution to an abuse of power by government is more government exercise of power? How about limiting the powers of government to remove the "direct incentive to lobby"?




So they only players left are the large corporations? I don't think you can have thought this through, so I'll take you through it:

Nation states are social constructs, whereby some people collectively lay claim to some land, and have their claim recognised by all the other states. In order to be able to do this, a key thing you must be able to do is defend your patch of land. This requires some sort of military, who will need paying. You can further entrench your position and standing amongst the group of nation states by doing trade with them. The greater your economic output, the more likely the are to treat you well, be your ally, and do trade with you in return.

However, keeping a military, and generating power and providing infrastructure to enable economic activity (roads, ports, airports, healthcare(?), fire, police etc.) costs money, and to raise this money, the state charges people tax. All states raise money via taxes, and it's the predominant way they do raise money. So there's the question, who do you tax, and how much? Do you tax everyone the same (a poll tax), or do you tax people who have less money less? Or people who have more money less? The power to decide who pays is one of the key roles of Government, and one of the main expressions of Government power.

I would be interested to hear how you would see a limitation of the powers of Government, by which I assume you mean limiting their ability to set tax law would work.


Thanks for "taking me through that." Never thought about that before now.

Let me take you through your scenario.. you give government increasing power to censure corporations it doesn't like, effectively making it kingmaker of the economy. You end up with something like China where every company is state-sanctioned, and there is widespread graft and corruption.


My point is not about increasing or decreasing the power of Government (in a democracy, Government power cannot really be 'increased' or 'decreased', but it can be concentrated or spread out though). The Chinese Government is not a democracy, so not really relevant to this discussion.


>in a democracy, Government power cannot really be 'increased' or 'decreased', but it can be concentrated or spread out though

What is the point of a constitution then?




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