On: Chuck Moore, Extreme Programmer

[Cyph0n]

> This kind of minimalism and stripping things down to their essence is a powerful tool to allow you to focus on what matters rather than at all those things that don't really matter. If you don't actually need 4 GHz chips and billions of transistors to get the job done then why would you?

I agree entirely. I just wanted to point out that it's not accurate to equate what Chuck designed (i.e., OKAD) to a modern EDA toolchain and technology node.

If it works for him, then great!

[jacquesm → Cyph0n]

Nobody equated that. The time when he made his is decades ago, so obviously nothing from those days compared to a modern EDA toolchain and associated bits and pieces.

I think you subconsciously added the 'modern' in there somewhere and then argued against that.

[Cyph0n → jacquesm]

You might actually be right. When I read this:

> He wrote his own chip design software and analog simulator

I immediately thought of a modern toolchain. Had I known that this was done decades ago, I might have reacted differently.

Nonetheless, even decades ago, both Cadence and Synopsys likely had pretty advanced tools under development. I may be mistaken though.

[amalawi → Cyph0n]

Moore mentioned these in passing at the end if the link https://colorforth.github.io/1percent.html He was stressing the solution fits the problem. Not a solution which can cover/contain the problem

[pantulis → Cyph0n]

Heh, I remember running Solo 2030 on Motorola-based Sun workstations almost 25 years ago...