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6 companies, 4 countries over 10 years? Are you a consultant? Otherwise, that's a LOT of job-hopping.

So, I was a consultant for a "systems integrator" for 14 years. I did enterprise Java, web apps, and backend legacy integration work. If you are anything like me, then you know of course no one in your organization (or the client's organization) cares about quality! You guys are hired guns, the "tiger team". You fake it till you make it. You move around, you're like a bedouin trader, you're a nomad.

Your comments about the coworker putting in OT to showoff and get ahead are just you wallowing in a bit of loathing. Never ever compare yourself with anyone else - we're all on our own tracks with our own tragedies and triumphs. If the guy wanted to bust his ass to make himself feel good, what do you care? God bless that dummy.

Anyhow, I think I can help with the loathing by getting a little philosophical with you. Two questions:

1. Are there bits of code or projects you can recall you've written over the last decade that you're really proud of? (Like, you can tell war stories about working on that code and you love those stories?)

2. Is ANY of the code you wrote going to be around in 5 or 3 or even 2 years from now?

The first question is to remind you of your craft, that it's really cool to make stuff work. The second question is to remind you that almost nothing you've done is built to last and is ultimately not going to leave any mark.

Now, don't despair. You can always take joy from your craft: let fly your creations to work in the world and do their little jobs and then move on to the next thing.

Reading your words, I can see that you're not taking much joy from the work right now. You don't have quality to hold up and you don't have good team dynamics where other people have your back.

In consulting, code quality will never be a priority nor of interest to anyone, especially in smaller firms. And, it'll be tough to build strong teams because you move around so much. You should really settle down in a city and get a regular salary job. You won't take much of a pay cut once you factor in all the benefits.

And there are plenty of big, established companies that practice TDD and have real Agile practices. Just search around and look at Fortune 1000 companies - the software teams working for those companies will signal quality to you through their blogs and open source offerings on Github.

As I said before, your #1 goal should be to sleep well at night and not work overtime. That means not being afraid of PagerDuty, not being afraid of deploying code at the last minute on a Friday before leaving for the weekend, not being afraid to relentlessly refactor the code to improve it, not feeling dirty about your code because you're not hacking anymore. When you're not afraid, you can have a team where members have each others' backs instead of backstabbing too. That goal of sleeping good at night is totally possible, I'm living it right now.

You need a new mindset. You need to improve your practices and start to claim your power as the developer. Read some code quality books, write some open source and teach yourself how to do TDD (I prefer "London" style TDD.) Listen to some of Uncle Bob's videos on YouTube or Safari Books online if you want to get into the groove. He's a goofball and a codger, but he's on the right track more than he is on the wrong track.

And, buck up dude ... I hope it's clearer now. :)




You don't know anything about me still you set off to give advices. That's not very wise TBH.

But if you want to be philosophical, then I will be psychological with you in exchange. I think that the fact that you write a 3 paragraph long reply to a guy who just simply describes everyday development practices which is common around the world tells a lot about you. Namely that you don't take very well when people don't agree with you. Most people who are like this just want to render themselves superior which shows their inferiority complex.

I pointed out and gave very specific examples why your ideas don't hold any water and how unrealistic are, and then you come back and tell me even more unrealistic things.

Also I watched all Uncle Bob's videos, I bought the Clean Coder series and I follow TDD. Which again proves that you don't know anything about me. And no. It's not clearer. And for the life of me can't understand why are you doing this (but I don't even care to be very honest).


> And for the life of me can't understand why are you doing this (but I don't even care to be very honest).

Wow.

> Also I watched all Uncle Bob's videos, I bought the Clean Coder series and I follow TDD.

And everyone else on the team does TDD as well? Do you work alone? I want details about what's going wrong.




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