On: It’s time to kill the web app

[int_19h]

I know that full well. But one thing that you might note about these tools that you've listed, is that they're nowhere near as simple as the VB6 form designer, that was exalted in the comment that started this whole thread. They're more complicated, because they have to deal with dynamic layouts, and you are exposed to this overhead even in visual mode.

[mike_hearn → int_19h]

I guess technically you don't have to use dynamic layouts. All toolkits and designers I've seen do allow absolute positioning. It's just discouraged.

But yes, these days, people do expect windows to be always resizable and that does add some complexity.