/r/LateStageCapitalism is not about breeding hate against the rich? I just went there and not a single post on any page I went to had a hateful post towards the rich.
Maybe there's one or two posts occasionally but there's 180,000 subscribers....
It's actually a really good subreddit about legit problems we're facing in ....Late Stage Capitalism.
"You spelled "confiscate their property, send them to gulag, and allow them to work their way back into society" wrong. Deporting the Bourgeoisie only inflicts them on another country."
The country is becoming more and more controlled by the rich. Which is a legit problem for a free society when a politician can be influenced by big money. It leads to oligarchy, which destroys the country. So their complaints against the rich are extremely valid.
If my words are inaccurate, point out that they're wrong. I don't feel bad at all for highlighting their behavior. The mods actively breed discontent and sow discord -- that is the purpose of the subreddit. They, from the top-down, encourage people to feel this way.
My examples aren't cherry-picked. It was ten seconds of effort after sorting by "top of the last month." I could post many more if you'd like.
Eh, there's some truth to that. And I'd prefer not banning subreddits at all. But on the other hand, people have been calling for The_Donald to be banned for years for similar behavior, and they have far more subscribers.
Suffice to say, all I was doing was mentioning that LateStageCapitalism exists and pointing out some of their behavior. I don't actually want them to be banned. Like all subs, there is some good content mixed in with the extremism.
Your comparison of people revolting against the rich is more apt to the French Revolution and American Revolution than to communism.
Both revolutions actually overthrew the rich aristocrats and created a democratic republic...
Unchecked free market capitalism leads to silo-ing of wealth and power amongst a select few and that's the point the people on that subreddit are trying to make. They don't hate rich people...they hate the oligoloplies and big monied interests that are have more influence than the average citizen on the direction of the country.
The American Revolution was a regional separatist movement led by the local rich aristocrats, it did not overthrow the rich aristocrats.
And the French Revolution did not, in fact, establish a democratic republic, it established an unstable regime nominally dedicated to democratic values but ruled by a succession of different regimes (of which, only the four years of the Directory even superficially resembles a democratic republic) before transitioning into the First Empire.
The actual outcomes are two of the greatest long lasting Democratic Republics in the history of the HUMAN RACE....
Also, compared to the aristocrats, lords, and king and queen of 1700' British empire, George Washington and company were absolute low rent scrubs.
Sure there were varied classes of people who revolted but the ultimate outcome was to rip the power and wealth from the rich few and give it to the many....
> The actual outcomes are two of the greatest long lasting Democratic Republics in the history of the HUMAN RACE....
The French Revolution didn't produce a democratic republic. It produced a series of short lived regimes imposed from the top down, culminating in the First Empire. France is a democratic republic now, but only continuously since 155 years after the Revolution (if you pretend the Vichy regime didn't happen, it's been a democratic republic since the fall of the Second Empire, “only” 80 years after the revolution.)
Note all of those 'short lived top down, regimes' ended in minor revolutions as well with the people taking the power back from the top, the outcome eventually establishing a Democratic Republic.
The French Revolution was the key and laid the groundwork to the eventual Democratic Republic by establishing the Rights of Man, the first French Constitution, and destroying aristocratic society from top to bottom, along with its structure of dependencies and privileges.
We can nitpick all we want about the various intermediary forms of govt but the ultimate outcome from the French Revolution was the French Democratic Republic, which laid the groundwork militarily, philosophically, and culturally.
You spelled "confiscate their property, put them in chain gangs, and allow them to work their way back into freedom" wrong. Deporting the niggers only inflicts them on another country.
Yeah, I think hate is upsetting no matter what outgroup you pick.
Here's what I almost tacked onto the end of my original comment:
"In before someone defends them by saying it's sarcasm. Oh? So the people in /r/coontown who were being sarcastic about killing blacks is reprehensible, but this is somehow ok?"
I didn't want to construct a strawman argument, but there you go.
Dismissing online forums seems silly. Both HN and reddit have had a huge impact.
The title "deport them" is satirising the classical conservative discourse of blaming the immigrants and the minorities, suggesting that those really to blame by the average Joe's woes are the rich 0.1%, thereby making use of irony to subvert the term "minorities" to mean those 0.1% of the population. Clearer?
It's ironic you're explaining irony to me when I already got the joke.
It's in the context of "screw these rich people." That joke wouldn't be okay if it was "screw these black people." So are we applying equal standards? Why not?
Personally, I think all jokes should be fine. The more scathing criticism and wit, the better. But we live in a climate where that's not really realistic. (Well, it is, but the joke had better be pretty funny to get away with it. This one was a lowball.)
So again: Why is it ok to aim this hatred towards rich people, but not minorities?
Minorities don't hoard wealth to the detriment of others. Minorities don't encourage and profit from a reckless, agressive, all-consuming consumer capitalist economy that's wrecking the planet. Minorities don't manipulate your mind with endless propaganda and advertising. Minorities don't lobby government to write laws that favour them. Minorities don't dodge taxes. In short, I have no valid reason to be angry at minorities, I have plenty to be mad at the privileged few in the current system. Honestly? If I have to spell this out to you I don't think this conversation is ever going anywhere.
