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Corporate cultures in Japan (japansubculture.com)
66 points by jbm on July 12, 2010 | hide | past | favorite | 25 comments



Charisma-kei businesses are common; I had a client that was clearly such.

The president of the company was constantly spying on all his programmers, and often switched the strategic direction in order to conform to the latest trends that he spotted on Digg. No one was paid more than about USD25k/year, despite having a huge office in Akihabara and backing from a large angel investor in Korea. (There was no business equity or anything like that for the workers, and no housing assistance either)

That isn't really a big deal; just another failing IT company with no direction. However, the "Japanese Charisma Kei" twist is that 25% of the company gross was given to a fundamentalist church the president belonged to, and that he continuously recruited people to join his cult. My gf, who I met there, had joined and subsequently left that church because she thought they were insane. The President let church members come to the office and hassle her about going back to that church without remorse. (She eventually left the company to work at a bank.)

All of this changed when I joined the company, mainly because they had a new director that was appointed by the angel investor. I can't say it changed much for the better. You see, the director believed he was receiving direct communications from aliens about zero-point energy and that it was his mission to create a new civilization based on that knowledge. He also refused to take baths (he used a peroxide solution to wipe his body with instead). As far as employees went, he frowned on the use of doctors (preferring instead to tell them to learn the secrets of "Ki healing").

I stopped working with them after 6 months. I have never regretted it.

(As an aside, I don't have any problem with people's personal religious beliefs or the fervor with which they practice it; it was the personality cult and the organized harassment in a place of business that was completely bizarre and far beyond anything I have ever encountered in Canada or the US)

-edited for terrible grammar. Ugh.


> No one was paid more than about USD25k/month

I'm assuming that should be per year?


Doh! Thanks, fixed :)


Have to ask -- Sokka Gakkai?


Good guess, but no; it was, believe it or not, one of those fundamentalist Korean "Christian" churches that are located in and around Okubo. (My girlfriend, who was raised as a Christian, told me that they refused to read anything but one section of the old testament that had to do with Tithing or something).

As far as Soka Gakkai goes; maybe you can educate me more about them, but they seem to be hated by the Uyoku (so they can't be all that bad). The real insane religious cult in Japan right now is "Happiness Science"; Kofuku Jitsugento feels much scarier than Komeito.


I was invited to join SGI by a Japanese co-worker. He told me that if I joined and simply did this chant everyday, I could get get anything I wanted. Like, anything.

This seemed like a great deal, so I actually went to a meeting with him and two of his "senpais" in the organization. Of course, I had no intention to join; I went out of (morbid?) curiosity.

Apparently I was a sort of strategic "target", so to speak. They wanted to expand in Brazil so it would be nice to teach a Brazilian (me) about SGI. They showed me a video of Ikeda (the founder) in Brazil and how a believer was cured of cancer thanks to SGI. They also talked a little about the Buddhist origins of SGI, but didn't enter into details. I'd have to join and start doing the chant thing. Only then I'd learn more. They were really friendly, but somewhat creepy.

I even toyed with the idea of joining and doing a write up to be published later under a pseudonym, but eventually decided against it.

SGI is (at least nominally) internationalist and pacifist, so it's only natural that the nationalist and militarist Uyoku don't like them.

I won't claim they are as evil as Uyoku, but they're definitely not harmless.


Only reason I was curious is that I've heard them described as a cult by a lot of people. In my experience, they seem pretty harmless, and overall pretty friendly, but religion in general makes me... edgy.

But yeah, them being hated by the right-wingers does score them points in my book. :)

Didn't know about Kofuku Jitsugento; care to enlighten me?



Oh, wow.

This explains who the asshole in the black van was.

Backstory: In Japan, it's pretty common around election season to have politicians rolling around in vans with loudspeakers, asking you to vote for them. You just get used to it after awhile.

But a few weeks ago, when I was walking to the station, a black van with illegible handwriting on the side had the loudspeakers turned up to about ten million. I could hear them literally three kilometers away, and anything less than five hundred meters was painful.

Of course, because they had the volume up so high, the distortion made whatever they had blaring out of their loudspeakers totally incomprehensible.

The other pedestrians, shop owners, and anybody blessed with the gift of hearing all looked pretty pissed.


The black vans weren't them; you're thinking the Uyoku.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uyoku_dantai

It could have been a political group but somehow I doubt they would be stupid enough to turn the volume to 11.


Aaaah, those fuckers. They're some thinly veiled mafiosi.


They are quite a cult but honestly, religion in Japan is very difficult for me to grok. All the members of these "New Religions" that I've met seem to be old/facing mortality, with two exceptions.

As for Kofuku Jitsugen To, you probably know them under their English name.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Happiness_Realization_Party

The HRP is scary because they sincerely believe all of Japan is under existential threat by North Korea and that they need to remilitarize to "take them out". If that sounds normal to y'all, it's because you never read the books by the founder or how Kim Jong Il's "teacher's ghost" supposedly appeared before the founder and told him that NK would destroy Japan for its evil master China.

(On the other hand, they want to have more babies which would be good for Japan, particularly if it resulted in people getting out of the Tokyo area...)


No problem - there is a trivial (in the mathematical sense) solution to Japanese militarism.


As an American living in Japan for an American firm, it's always a culture shock when I talk to other dad's at my kids school events. If I find the person I'm talking to is working for a "Militant" + "Work == Life" company, I need to shut up, lest I shatter the illusion of the security of lifetime employment. It's also a bit strange when I run into people that have worked for the same firm I'm in right now and left because it was too "Liberal".

Japan is just not changing fast enough and is going to be left behind by the more aggressive, mobile, and "liberal" workforce and companies. Traditional Japanese companies are like the dinosaurs, not able to adapt to change. Darwinism at work.


Here here.

I also previously worked at Fujitsu's mobile division and can attest to that.

They still have an entire floor dedicated to developing for Symbian. Their main translator is hamstrung by rules that indicate they must re-use old (incorrect) translations so that there is no loss in "language continuity" between phones.

It isn't the fault of my immediate superiors there; both were open, intelligent and hard-working. It is middle and upper middle management. They are relics from the bubble era ( subject to less stringent entry conditions) and were promoted 3 or 4 levels above their competence. The fact is, their underlings are of significantly higher quality. (My superior was one person picked out of 500; as opposed to her superior, who was chosen out of a group of 5 or 6)

Fujitsu's previous president was thrown out of the company on trumped-up charges about being aligned with the Yakuza (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/8606515.stm). Why? Because he tried to spin off parts of the company that had been losing money for years.

I loved my coworkers there and part of me wishes I could be working with them today. Unfortunately, they won't adapt until an entire generation is in their grave.


"Hear, hear"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hear,_hear

(semi-apologies, incorrect cultural idioms are a pet peeve of mine)


Sorry about that, I'm a bit embarassed because I feel the exact same way (particularly about misuses of "I couldn't care less")


Honest question, how is "I couldn't care less" usually mis-used? Using a made-up example, it's often said like this, "I couldn't care less how much you like XYZ, I don't want blah blah blah."

The person is saying that they don't care at all. As in, they couldn't care less... seems right to me! Just curious how it's typically mis-used.


A lot of people say "I could care less"


Ah, of course. I misunderstood the grandparent. Thanks.


I did 2 internships at Sony in Japan... work relationships were professional (not personal), and the managers were very polite to the subordinates. Looking at this chart, I realize now how atypical this is for Japanese companies!


Looking at this chart, I realize now how atypical this is for Japanese companies!

It is atypical for a certain segment of Japanese companies. Its a big country, with all kinds of folks in it, much like America. I get worried when folks assume that the stereotypical salaryman life is universal in Japan -- compare it to Japanese people assuming that all American companies are like Google. (Incidentally, I have met people with that misconception.)

Anecdotally, my previous employers were solidly within the ambit of a corporation on the top left of that chart, and managers were instructed to (and to my experience generally did) address employees "consistent with professional etiquette and the traditional expectations of polite society."


Yes good point. I guess I meant comparing Sony with the other electronics makers like panasonic or hitachi.


How much is apple a charisma-kei company? The media and some customer segments treat it like that, but I wonder how it is as an actual employee?


Japanese culture is a type of cult




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