On: I Bought a Book About the Internet from 1994 and N...

[rayiner]

God I miss when the web was designed for people who could read.

[ChrisSD → rayiner]

Then you'll "love" Microsoft's 1994 page: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/discover/1994/

[mars4rp → ChrisSD]

"If your browser doesn't support images, we have a text menu as well." coool

[dullgiulio → ChrisSD]

"WWW.MICROSOFT.COM is running Microsoft's Windows NT Server 3.5 and EMWAC's HTTPS"

EMWAC supported TLS 1.2 already back then. Amazing!

[ChrisSD → dullgiulio]

Ha, well it is a recreation and obviously not the original. They didn't have the original code so they had to work out how it was made. There's a readme which explains the process: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/discover/1994/readme.html

[voltagex_ → ChrisSD]

I get infinite redirects to profile.microsoft.com for that link if I load it in a browser with live.com cookies. Kinda sad, really.

[jwilk → dullgiulio]

I guess HTTPS stood for HTTP Server.

[stordoff → ChrisSD]

Is microsoft.com currently not loading for anyone else? I'm getting ERR_SSL_UNRECOGNIZED_NAME_ALERT in Chrome, but I'm not seeing it mentioned anywhere else (e.g. Twitter).

[nebabyte → stordoff]

Works for me. For future reference, isup.me

[Sleeep → rayiner]

I don't miss flash intos though. Or frames.

Good thing they were usually optional.

[flukus → Sleeep]

Not so sure about frame, they solved 90% of the problems that SPA's are used to solve today, they could have been improved rather than replaced.

[Sleeep → flukus]

Frames have been improved into iframe and then deprecated in HTML 5.

Frames were a nightmare. You can't link to a page in frames, you can't bookmark it either. Frames break the back button. Come in via search engine? You're only in the main frame, your navigation frame is missing. Want to print? Lol, good luck with that. You always ended up (either intentionally or unintentionally) with a browsing session within someone else's unrelated frameset.

I also heard they were bad for screen readers.

[ChrisSD → Sleeep]

Nitpick: iframes haven't been deprecated in HTML5. In fact they've been extended with new attributes like sandbox and srcdoc. Loading content via javascript is often a better approach but iframes allow you to sandbox content from your website's context, e.g. to prevent XSS attacks etc.