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> I'm curious why you think this is. As I've noted elsewhere in this thread, I've never written a line of Java in my life, and have worked as a Clojure dev since 2014. I also never write any code that interoperates with Java.

You're quite fortunate, but I was not. In fact, the reason I choose clojure at Level's primary language was for Java interop with the fintech world.

In many cases if you want performant code that doesn't leak resources, you will need to appeal to at the very least java.util.concurrent. Clojure doesn't even really try to fill the gaps there.

And even if you do, a working knowledge of the JVM, java compilation, and build/deploy tooling is quite helpful. There is only so much lein can abstract for you.




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