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What motivated you to start building your own language? Did you use much kdb/q before?

How did you manage to get this open sourced?




Well I have been interested in programming languages for a very long time. I was hired into a group at Morgan Stanley specifically to develop this project. We had some initial use-cases where some internal trading systems could be "hot patched" with new logic but it was very slow (there was basically a simple AST-walking interpreter here). So at first I just had to make a roughly equivalent thing that could be much faster. However once that immediate need was satisfied, we found many more interesting places to apply this tool. I would say that the storage and live data-analysis features are just as valuable as the efficient machine code produced by hobbes.

Yes I have used kdb/q before. It's pretty popular in the financial domain. I really like what we can do with type systems. :D

Getting this project open sourced was really accomplished by other folks who I'm not sure if I can name here (I will check with them) but I was very happy to help make it happen. There are several folks internally who have been working really hard to make it possible for the firm to open source the work that we do and hobbes is just one part of that effort. There are several folks in management positions in the firm who have made open source efforts like this a priority and have even gone out on a limb to make sure that this happens. Morgan Stanley is a really remarkable company in the technology/finance domain, in my experience.


I'd like to know this as well. I know most array languages coupled with a DB aren't as fast as a language with a JIT, but the code is quite expressive. If Kdb+ can ever easily be run on an FPGA or GPU cluster...that would be something.


Not kdb+, but a proprietary (internal-only) language that it heavily influenced was designed around execution on GPU clusters.

The FPGAs were used mainly for feedhandlers and there was a different DSL for that (compiling to verilog).

It was indeed rather something to see :)


Was it received favorably? A secret sauce, or a failed project.


Secret sauce, at least for the team involved, and well-received. Nice combination of extreme perf and decent productivity for them.

I've moved into non-finance stuff for quite a while now though, so not sure what's become of it. Given business challenges in that particular sub-field, who knows..




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