The fact that go maintainers themselves wanted to get rid of /r/golang actually proves otherwise. As for Dave Cheney, he left that sub long before any Trump drama on reddit.
Obviously the people who act in a toxic fashion don't think themselves as such and don't see the toxicity even when it blatantly exists.
But that's not my point. /r/golang is officially outside Go community since even go maintainers disowned it and want nothing to do with it. Whatever drama happening there is not representative of the go community, nor whatever /r/golang thinks as "idiomatic".
It doesn't "prove" anything. It only proves that the maintainers are intolerant of the community, for whatever reason.
> Obviously the people who act in a toxic fashion don't think themselves as such and don't see the toxicity even when it blatantly exists.
Maybe I "act in a toxic fashion" or maybe your standards for "toxic" are just extremely low. Fortunately, we don't have to agree on the absolute threshold for toxic, we can make relative comparisons; as /u/jerf stated, if /r/golang is toxic, this thread is radioactive. Anyway, it's rude to make unfalsifiable implications about other people, or to speak as though your own subjective thresholds are absolute ("...toxicity even when it blatantly exists"); and it's foolishness when your own standard for "toxic" is so much lower than the common use.
> /r/golang is officially outside Go community since even go maintainers disowned it and want nothing to do with it.
You're confusing the Go community with the various subcommunities under the maintainers' moderation. You have to provide a better rationale for why /r/golang is an invalid sampling of Gophers for the purpose of named returns; "because the maintainers don't like it" is not very compelling.
> It doesn't "prove" anything. It only proves that the maintainers are intolerant of the community, for whatever reason.
Wow. What a way to prove the parent's point.
>Maybe I "act in a toxic fashion" or maybe your standards for "toxic" are just extremely low.
Honestly, you appear to make it your own personal point to act like a dick, and for no reason at all. That's very toxic, and in a very needless manner. If your behavior is any indication of what goes on in /r/golang, no wonder relevant people decided to abandon it. There's nothing to be gained by sticking around people who make it their point to act like dicks.
The fact that go maintainers themselves wanted to get rid of /r/golang actually proves otherwise. As for Dave Cheney, he left that sub long before any Trump drama on reddit.
Obviously the people who act in a toxic fashion don't think themselves as such and don't see the toxicity even when it blatantly exists.
But that's not my point. /r/golang is officially outside Go community since even go maintainers disowned it and want nothing to do with it. Whatever drama happening there is not representative of the go community, nor whatever /r/golang thinks as "idiomatic".