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Harmony Explained: Progress Towards a Scientific Theory of Music (2014) (arxiv.org)
98 points by adamnemecek on June 16, 2017 | hide | past | favorite | 61 comments



> You can't start a science textbook like that.

'Music theory books' make no claim to be scientific. Western music is a cultural construct and there are books that explain how to practice this particular field. For insiders, the three initial statements the author attempts to burn down make perfect sense. What it means to locate a (part of) a music piece in a 'harmonic system' makes just as much sense to musicians as the rest of us calling a lollypop 'sweet'. I wouldn't criticise cooks for not describing taste by the molecular contents of their ingredients.

While it's interesting to dissect music differently from how musicians may analyse it, completely rejecting local experts' understanding of a phenomenon runs counter to finding out more. Is a farmer a complete fail whale for knowing when to plant his crops based on when a certain type of flower first blooms, rather than the precise position of the earth relative to the sun?

If I would only read music theory by this author, I would still not have a clue how to play the piano. He/she wastes a lot of words on what could otherwise be described as the difference between Metis and Techne, or local knowledge and technical knowledge.

I pasted two long quotes about the distinction between Metis and Techne here: https://pastebin.com/ZYKJDFRN


> I wouldn't criticise cooks for not describing taste by the molecular contents of their ingredients.

Now theres a good analogy.


By "music theory books", I believe the author means "Literature which attempts to explain biologically why harmonies sound pleasant". My experience with this is that

1) Much of this literature is indeed in inside books which also discuss the "cookbook" parts of music theory, and

2) It's shocking how much incorrect, unscientific nonsense there is in these texts, and

3) There's nothing close to a scientific consensus about why humans and animals nearly universally feel good when hearing harmonious sounds.

The author is attempting to answer that question, and I think his initial complaints are perfectly valid.


"fail whale", nice


The author is correct in saying that music theory is not a "theory" the scientific sense.

But as a musician/producer/composer I'd never want that anyway. Having studied many forms of music, I know that there is no "right" and so a proscriptive/predictive "theory" of music is not at all what we want. On the contrary, what is "right" in music comes from a long line of collective cultural reasoning. This is much more evident in the distinctions between the development of eastern and western music, each having their own "theory". Notably, eastern music has a lot lower emphasis on harmonic progression and tends to use different tuning, sometimes "perfect" tuning (something which western music must eschew to support flexible harmonic motion). This leads me to my thesis, that music theory is primarily descriptive in nature and there are many theories of music, driven by historical-cultural development.

Music "theory" should lie outside of the domain and concern of science. There are fields which address the human response and other scientific natures of this such as psychoacoustics, electrical engineering and signal processing, and mathematics. Music "theory" has in its view aesthetics which lie outside of the domain of science and is a tool for use in describing things which have been found pleasing aurally and culturally.


I think what many miss is that Music Theory is designed to be after the fact. It seeks to explain - after a piece has already been written - why something works harmonically / rhythmically / etc.

It has no prescriptive power, it was never intended to be a set of formulas that can then be used to generate "good music". Only to create a language to explain whats already there...


I don't disagree but I would say this is half the story. Music theory is a way to describe the patterns that have emerged over centuries of musical developments. As you say, you can't generate "good music" through rote use of these formulas. But the formulas provide a context both to explain what's there and ALSO to create new music within that context. Musical interest comes mostly from using and abusing these rules. For example, I can predict ahead of time that if I use a V-I progression there is going to be a sense of tension and then release in the music. There is (probably) no scientific reason for this. But scores of other composers have adhered to this principle and so we all understand this concept. And by recognizing this I have a tool with which to control the level of tension in a musical passage.


I think it goes both ways. Historically, most music theory has arisen after the fact to explain why music written a hundred years before sounds good. However, it is possible to discover some particular mathematical structure in music and then generalize to create new previously-unknown forms of music. There's a certain degree of artistry to this, so it's hard to say where the science ends and the art begins. To an outside observer it may look like someone just randomly made noise until something "worked".

Personally, I think western music is stuck in a 12-tone-equal-temperament rut. It's not as if we've discovered all possible 12-TET music, but it's getting harder to find anything truly novel harmonically or melodically. (Timbre and rhythm are still good ways to innovate within 12-TET.)


In my view, this isn't entirely accurate. On some occasions, musicians have invented theories for prescriptive use, for instance to overcome a creative roadblock. I think that modal jazz and 12-tone systems are examples.

Noting a neighboring comment, theory may not be necessary for composition, but some specific forms of composition may be prohibitively difficult without theory. I have musical colleague who composes multi part jazz harmonies for small to large ensembles. They are steeped in theory.

On the other hand, my spouse attended a seminar given by a fairly well known film composer. She asked him if he followed any particular school of theory, and he said no.


I think another aspect is that music theory is absolutely not required for appreciation nor composition.


It's just a framework. Like music history, ethnomusicology, music cognition, music lessons, instrument building, etc., it will deepen one's appreciation for music if you learn it.

As far as composition-- I've had some encounters with talented musicians who get stuck putting together a song or electronic composition because "something just isn't sounding right." In those encounters, a process of elimination improved a chord/voicing that an understanding of fundamental music theory principles would have revealed without my help.

The problem is that without the fundamental understanding, it's nearly impossible to reverse-engineer such an improvement and deduce the general principle at work. Lacking that basic understanding makes one reliant on others just to figure out how to get the sounds out of one's head and into the air.


so glad to hear someone else say this! i always feel compelled to point this out. fist bumps you


> Music "theory" should lie outside of the domain and concern of science

Said every carpenter, craftsman and artisan that was eventually replaced by machines. There's a place for both, but it seems silly to argue against the march of progress given where it's gotten us.


to say that music theory lies outside the realm of science is not the same as saying that a machine can never produce pleasing and/or artistically valid music (or art in general) "on its own" (assuming that you believe it's possible for a machine to become independent of its creator(s) as an animal child can).


hey guess what, western classical harmony that bach kind of codified, is but one harmonic system. its accidentally super arrogant to ignore the insanely deep musical traditions that are not present in western classical music, since they have different ideas about harmony. one of the great things about music is that it has really opened my eyes to this kind of of cultural myopia. its so obviously implicit in pretentious analyses like these, even if their content is interesting and correct, that the writers believe that western music is the real music. its trained into alot of us that that is the case. well, its not. its not superior, nor inferior. someone is going to read this and think im being an sjw, but i assure you! i once implicitly thought this way too, but i studied other music besides my first love, which was the music of bach, and its true! the musical traditions of roma people, indian classical music, american jazz, bluegrass, flamenco, romanian folk music, turkish music (just whatever is coming to me in this moment) etc etc these things are so deep, and have such rich traditions of insane dedication. so, dispose of this idea that bach's music is the only real music.

the same kind of weird cultural narcissism / racism / whatever it is happens in language, with "correct" usage of words. its the same damn thing.

and can i just add, for all the overly left brained harmonic analysers out there- it would be nice to see someone address the fact that harmony, even in the restricted western classical sense, i guess "diatonic", depends greatly on timbre and range as well. of course i didnt read this paper, and instead ranted somewhat incoherently about topics which might not even apply to the paper, but hey, i had a good time!


The author did attempt to address this, by complaining that you "aren't really paying attention":

* He notes that octaves are common across cultures (per Levitin, "This is Your Brain On Music")

* He asserts that 12 tones represent a practical limit to harmony; more than 12 tones is more complex than the brain can handle in its "note-expectation engine".

* He thinks other cultures could be working within his theory, but simply not taking advantage of _all_ of the universal harmonic features that Western music offers. He cites pentatonic scales as an example.

* He is baffled by the Nasca Indians of Peru, who apparently form their pitches by linear steps in frequency rather than logarithmic (I won't even attempt to use the word "harmony" in this sense), but he asserts that 1) their tuning system was probably derived because it was mechanically easier to produce a set of pipes to that tuning system, 2) they're a weird case because they were isolated.

* To finish that reasoning off, he suggests there's a "musical sophistication" of a culture which develops from linear scales (easy to carve) on the simple end to equal temperament on the sophisticated side (because arbitrary key changes without wolf intervals is the ne plus ultra, right?).

So, yeah: I'd say there's some serious cultural narcissism going on. It would be OK if he confined his analysis to Western harmony and simply tried to explain what was going on there, but by trying to derive universal musical principles from barbershop quartets, his project was pretty much doomed from the get-go. :-)


There's a nature and a nurture to how we perceive music and harmony.

Nature is the aspects of harmony that independent societies have all agreed upon, likely due to an unknown biological reason harmony sounds pleasant. Nurture is the connotations society and culture put on top of that.

The author is only attempting to explain the nature part of things.

You wouldn't fault the theory of gravity for not explaining cell biology, so let's not fault this guy for ignoring culture.


The author starts out by complaining that current music theory is not scientific. I completely agree. The field is astoundingly full of technical-seeming, well-accepted textbooks containing a biological "explanation" of harmony that is either totally unproven or trivially false.

But then he precedes to dive into a mountain of unsubstantiated conjecture, saying:

1. Our brains are just computers

2. Evolution motivates less computation

3. Finding the fundamental frequency of a sound is worthwhile

4. Doing that is computationally easier if all other frequencies are in harmony

5. That is what has lead to harmony giving us pleasure

(The rest is essentially fluff around this core argument)

It's a nice theory, but there's nothing to substantively back up any of these points. He comes the closest on point #4, but only by making strong assumptions about the flavor of #1. The whole thrust of his argument is just totally tangential to addressing his initial complaints about the lack of science and rigor within the subject of biological harmony.

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One thing he does get right is avoiding most common mistake that textbooks and laymen alike think about hearing: Our ears do not perceive the waveform of sound directly (for the most part[1]). Rather, we perceive sympathy vibrations at different parts our cochlea, rather directly sending nerve signals according to the Fourier transform of the original waveform. This can be measured (scientifically)!

This Vi Hart video does a remarkably good job at giving a layman's tour of our some of the phenomena in our ears: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_0DXxNeaQ0

[1] If this were totally true, we wouldn't be able to perceive phase at all! But it is the case that these sympathy vibrations are perceived with much more sensitivity than our perception of phase, and are linked more closely to peoples' idea of harmony.


We don't even perceive the Fourier transform. What we perceive is pre-processed by complex "sonic object" recognition systems we barely understand.

Obvious example: you don't hear formants and spectral distributions when someone is speaking. You hear words, which are parsed into sentences, which are processed into meaning.

Along the way a lot of redundant elements - background noises, breath sounds, ums and ahs, and even distortion from electronic transmission systems - are all eliminated.

Music is similar but even more complicated, because while there are stylistic conventions, there doesn't seem to any single consistent grammar.

There's a superficial listening level which parses a mix of sounds into the sounds of different instruments, a "theory" level which listens for horizontal and vertical groupings and structures, an "emotional" level which reacts to implied emotion and mood, and sometimes a "metaphorical" level which listens poetically and associatively.

It's not a simple process.


True!

I won't risk getting out of my depth. My comment was simply saying there are unique nerve signals from unique points across the cochlea which uniquely convey the information "this frequency is currently being heard at this volume". To say that that information is what we perceive... that's not an argument I'd make. But it is a step along the process.

Everyone knows we "see" in rgb, but few people seem to know we "hear" in frequencies more than we "hear" in waveforms. That's my point.


> It's a nice theory, but there's nothing to substantively back up any of these points

Of course there is.

1. All of physics is computable, and dualistic theories of mind are far more problematic than monistic ones. Also, computational minds are consistent with all of our scientific knowledge, and require no further ontological commitments; not true of other theories of mind.

2. That evolution favours less computation, all else being equal, follows trivially from natural selection. Using more computation than is needed requires more food, which would not compete well against mutations that are more efficient.

3. Finding a fundamental frequency is adaptive for identification of predators, prey and allies.

4. Well defined frequency separation does make the problem of separating frequencies easier. It's practically tautological.

5. This is the only thing requiring additional empirical support.


Hypothesis is different from evidence. Your arguments roughly address the phrasing of my summary but don't back the full scope author's actual conjectures.

1, for instance, is not philosophical. He's literally carrying the metaphor down to additions and multiplications of waveform samples. There's no evidence that this is mechanistically similar to how our brain thinks, nor is there evidence that "easy" problems of addition are easy problems of our mind.

2 is an argument of strong evolutionary force... strong enough to overcome the fact that my emotional reactions to harmony will change my behavior, despite them not being a good signal of how to survive

And the rest is pure conjecture. I'm not saying it's a bad hypothesis. It's just not anything beyond hypothesis.


Does this work address the fact that people raised in non-Western musical cultures don't experience pleasure/displeasure based on harmony?

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2016/07/your-culture-not-you...


Yes, well, sort of, and also perhaps you have a citation for your claim?


I came up with something of a theory of rhythm. I don't know anything about music theory, so, for all I know, the theory is not new or a better theory already exists. But it's simple, so I'll share the main idea.

I think that rhythms are perceived like echos. So, in 4/4 time with beats on quarter notes, beat #2 is an echo of beat #1 (the main beat), beat #3 is an echo of beat #2, and beat #4 is an echo of beat #3. Then, the main beat sounds again and the whole thing repeats.

Now, if that makes sense, you can forget about echos. What matters is that there is a chain of causation. The listener perceives that Beat #1 causes beat #2, which causes beat #3, and so on. The listener unconsciously creats a theory of causation that explains the rhythm.

Now set aside music for a second. Imagine that you hear a sequence of sounds:

  1. "Oops!"
  2. (Crash!)
  3. (Baby crying)
Since they occur together, they are perceived as being causally related. Now, back to music. Within each repeating unit (usually a measure), the listener always has a working theory of causation to explain the rhythm. The theory has the form of a tree, with child nodes caused by the parent node.

When rhythms mutate over time, the change will sound small if the change only affects a leaf. The change will sound bigger if the change affects a complete branch. And, the change will sound jarring if it violates the theory of causation, i.e. by removing the cause without removing the effect.

Multiple rhythms can be superposed over each other, so the theory of causation can be a tree with multiple branches. For ex.:

  Main beat -> rhythm1
    AND ALSO
  Main beat -> rhythm2.
If rhythm2 is added to rhythm1 after rhythm1 has been playing already, rhythm2 is perceived as a distinct chain, which is caused by the main beat. Hence, rhythm2 can be removed as a unit without violating causation.


> [...] beat #3 is an echo of beat #2 [...]

This doesn't match the hierarchy of beats present in most music written in 4/4, where beats #1 and #3 are strong beats-- with beat #1 getting a greater emphasis than beat #3-- and beats #2 and #4 being weak beats. Much of the music of the classical period supports this fundamental pattern-- in 4/4 cadential formulae are generally articulated on beat #1 or beat #3, and rarely on beat #2 or #4.

One could make the argument that beat #3 is an echo of #1. But then beat #2 couldn't also be an echo of beat #1. (And there isn't a similar hierarchy of weak beats with #2 and #4.)

Furthermore, this hierarchy usually extends out exponentially in larger durations. So in a Mozart string quartet you'll hear how rhythmic material of measures 1 and 2 is often repeated (or slightly varied) in measures 3 and 4, with measures 2 and 4 being the "weak" measures. A lot of repertoire from the classical period extends at least two levels further so that the first four measures are a group balanced by another group of four. That 8 measure phrase then has a matching 8 measure phrase, although once we get that far out the rhythms aren't usually strictly symmetrical or imitative anymore.

I haven't read the literature but I'd imagine music cognitive research can shed light on just how far out humans can track those rhythmic groups. On the one hand, I know it has to be smaller than, say, an entire section of a sonata (I've never perceived a development section as the "weak" rhythmic group, for example). But techno music makes me speculate that at least in simplistic musical structures these groups can extend quite far.


There's so much in your comment that I could respond to. I probably won't get to everything.

But here is a "proof" that beats are perceived as if they were echos, using a rock beat. A (natural) echo is softer than the original, because the sound is traveling a greater distance to get to your ear. So, an artificial echo should also be softer. I used to play drums and I remember instinctively hitting the hi hat like (on quarter notes):

  (DAH-Dah)-(Dah-dah)
where the hardness was like 3-2-2-1 or 3-1-2-1. If I'm using terminology correctly: I hit it hardest on the down beat and second hardest on up beats. It just sounded right.

So the echo pattern would be like

  #1 Downbeat
  #2  (echo of #1)
  #3   (echo of #2)
  #4    (echo of #3)
(On the high hat)

OR

  #1 Downbeat
  #2    (Small echo of #1)
  #3  (Big echo of #1)
  #4    (Small echo of #3)
(On the high hat)

The way to test a theory of causation is to remove beats and see if it sounds right to your ear. Pay attention to how the transition sounds. Does the transition sound natural? This is kind of hard to do with rock rhythms. The theory becomes more interesting as the rhythms get more complex. When I was thinking about this, I was imagining house music or other electronic dance music.

I don't know much classical music, so I haven't really even thought about it.


I don't know anything about music, but it sounds like you said "Here's proof that beats are perceived as echoes: I play them like echoes."


>>One could make the argument that beat #3 is an echo of #1. But then beat #2 couldn't also be an echo of beat #1.

That isn't true! Beat #1 can have an infinite number of echos.

N.B.: When I was initially thinking about this I was thinking of subsequent beats as "echos," and I mentioned the echo concept here in the hope that it would be something concrete and instantly relatable. But the echo concept only goes so far, because the "echos" don't have to sound like the original (orig: crash! echo: whistle), and the echos can be removed and replaced over time (say, a change every 4 bars).

The concept of an "echo" is that

  1. It comes after the "cause"
  2. It's less accentuated
The theory is supposed to describe how rhythms sound to the ear. The concept is that the listener builds a theory of "what goes with what", i.e. they break the rhythm down into groups of sounds and form a tree of causation. Presumably, this is how we are able to perceive very complex rhythms: we unconsciously form a tree where earlier sounds "cause" later sounds, and this breaks the rhythm down and makes it easier to build a mental model of how the rhythm works. Your mind internalizes the rhythm and anticipates what's coming next. Rather than treat each sound as independent, we just remember transitions from one sound to the next.

For example, when listening to a rhythm, you construct rules like:

  "Boom" comes before "whoosh"
So you hear "boom" and you start expecting "whoosh". It will sound awkward if "boom" goes away and "whoosh" remains in place, because you thought "whoosh" was caused by "boom". It will sound slightly less awkward if "whoosh" goes away but "boom" stays.


I had another brainstorm. With respect to rhythms where #3 is relatively loud, which describes most rock:

I think it's actually a bit of a trick. It causes the song to sound faster. The reason is because the snare or whatever on #3 is perceived as being incongruously loud, too loud to be an echo. Which gives the impression that it's a second main beat, splitting the measure into two halves and making it sound like 2/4.

Having said that, it might also make sense to consider it an echo of the bass drum. You could remove the snare and leave the bass drum and it would sound ok. If you tried to remove the bass drum and leave snare on #3, it really wouldn't sound right.


I like your idea that it feels like sounds cause each other. But I disagree that beat 1 is always the cause. The pattern of dah-DUM is pretty common, and the dah would typically be a quarter or eight note before the DUM on the 1.


>>But I disagree that beat 1 is always the cause

I agree that that's a weak part of the theory and it could use more thought.

>>The pattern of dah-DUM is pretty common, and the dah would typically be a quarter or eight note before the DUM on the 1.

I thought about that case, and I considered whether to create the concept of a pre-echo.

Another edge case is when beat #3 is accentuated, like in almost any rock song:

BASS-tick-SNARE-tick

The echo pattern is what the listener expects to hear. When a beat is louder than it's "supposed" to be, it makes that beat sound louder and brings it out. I think the snare sounds more powerful as a consequence of being unexpectedly loud.

Wrt pre-echos, I think you could consider them a deliberate deviation from the echo pattern to achieve a particular sound. The difference between theory and actual rhythms is what we call music, right?


ive tried reading this a couple times now. im not sure what you are trying to explain. it almost reads like a markov chain.


It's not really a Markov chain, because Markov chains are random. It could be a degenerate Markov chain where probabilities are either 1 or 0, so that the same pattern repeats over and over.

The pattern can change, say, every 4 bars. Then you are manipulating the chain.


I believe the parent was comparing your post to the output of a Markov chain, not rhythms themselves. Though I didn’t have any problem making sense of it…


Oh! Gotcha. Thanks for the vote of confidence.


no i mean you are not making sense to me, mostly because i dont know what it is about rhythm you are explaining.


I wrote the comment with the expectation that the reader would have enough musical background to understand it. I can easily picture a rhythm as it would appear in sheet music (well, maybe not easily), because I used to play drums and I had to be able to read music.

Playing drums is probably the ideal background to be able to follow along with what I wrote.

The idea is kind of hard to explain to begin with.


well i play music professionally, and went to a conservatory of music, so i definitely have the background


Sorry to imply that you don't know music. When someone just says "i don't understand that" it's impossible to know what's​ preventing them from understanding.


thats ok, you dont have any way of knowing. your post does kind of make me think you are someone who doesn't know what you dont know, but thats ok since im that person often too. i dont understand what about rhythm you are trying to explain. like, what is the question you are answering. that the moeller stroke / hard soft eighth notes (or swung, the two seem to kind of do the same thing in alot of cases) is imitating an echo? i guess it can sound a bit similar? i think it has more to do with establishing a hierarchy of beats, or creating a kind of forward motion. if you dont create a hierachy of beats, just like you do with bars, sections etc, you can lose some form, which gives you less shape to the piece. its also a product of the way some instruments are played, like guitar, where upstrokes are naturally weaker than downstrokes. i do not understand what you mean about causality. i dont hear it that way. i guess in most cases, to keep it simple, i hear it as tension and release, same as harmony or melody.



Music is language.

Music 'theory' is somewhat akin to linguistics (or language subjects). It can help you dissect and understand how things work in an abstract sense, but when it comes to actually talking (or playing music), you're operating in a different mindset.

The people who rely on music theory are non-experts in the same way that the people who rely on language class to speak are non-native speakers.


Music is not language and it is not "a language". It is something that _seems_ like language.

This is because music has evolved as a mutated copy of part of the human language acquisition instinct. The mood change caused by music is a mutated copy of the mood change that accompanies initial language acquisition, and it serves a different purpose.

The mood change that accompanies initial language acquisition helps to focus the infant's mind on language as a separate important thing that has its own (somewhat arbitrary) rules that need to be understood separately from everything else.

The mood change that accompanies music serves to intensify emotions that accompany daydreaming - this helps us to "better" daydream, in a manner that does not cause us to confuse daydreamed emotions with real emotions (because we are always consciously aware that the mood change is directly caused by listening to music).

(More details at http://whatismusic.info/.)


Music is like a language, but unlike languages you don't need to be familiar with it in order to understand it.


That depends entirely on the level of understanding.

Recognizing the harmony underneath a line isn't something a casual listener is going to do, but is essential for a musician who is trying to communicate with other musicians in real-time.


Recognizing the harmony underneath a line isn't something a casual listener is going to do, but is essential for a musician who is trying to communicate with other musicians in real-time

My point is that none of that is essential to recognizing it as music and getting meaning from it.


For a more professional and thoughtful look at music and combinatorial math I suggest:

http://dmitri.mycpanel.princeton.edu/geometry-of-music.html

There's also

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Topos-Music-Geometric-Concepts-Perf...

Although IMO it's mostly blather - unlike Tymoczko, who's worth reading.

There are no complete scientific theories of music and there never will be, because music is a huge and semi-random collection of cultural experiments and stylistic conventions built only very loosely on perceptual psychology.

Academic theory books define an alphabet of terms, but the rest is learned by practice and experiment, oral teaching, and by listening, copying, and varying.


> There are no complete scientific theories of music and there never will be, because music is a huge and semi-random collection of cultural experiments and stylistic conventions built only very loosely on perceptual psychology.

You could say much the same thing about architecture. In that domain, I find Christopher Alexander's book A Pattern Language to be a very good reference for describing many concrete reasons why certain buildings feel better than others that seem to be pretty universal. (And we could reasonably expect to be able to test that if we were in doubt.)

It's not a complete theory of architecture and can't be, but partial theories are still tremendously useful and more likely to produce good results than blindly following stylistic rules without knowing what purpose they serve.

I've been hoping for awhile that someone will write a good music theory book in the same format.


Reads as a working lit review (huge collection of ideas the author has come across) rather than a compact synthesis.

Discuss on Lyra: https://hellolyra.com/c/382


Yes. I've read this before, and if you go through it you see it's a less than half-baked theory where anything that doesn't fit isn is dismissed as degenerate music that people are wrong to like. It's egotistical to the point of self-parody. I'm really into the geometric structure of music but this guy isn't even half-way there.

We did not take up rhythm in depth in this article, however I think it is quite likely that rhythm can be explained in a manner similar to harmony.

- Wile E. Coyote, Super Genius

Look, it's true that music theorists aren't scientists and the most innovative musicians are often terrible at explaining the underlying structures or musical strange attractors that shape what they do. I'm a terrible musician and I've been asking and groping towards a scientific theory of music for years. But at every music tech trade show, there are a couple of people like this guy showing off their automatic music composition system. They're very very proud of the theoretical abstractions they've been able to identify and automate, and they should be, it's impressive work. But the music is always terrible, boring stuff that doesn't evoke any emotion. And I say that as someone who listens to tons of techno and 'difficult' electronic music from artists like Autechre.

Theory gives you a framework on which you can build your composition, where that's musical, paint or whatever. There is lots of bad art produced without such a framework that typically has a short half-life, and lots of bad art that merely decorates the framework and is thus pleasing but formulaic, also having a short half-life. Enduring art can develop and even comment upon the framework, but it's not primarily about the framework. The choice of subject is one of the most difficult and hard to teach or communicate aspects of art, and the problem with theoretical exegeses like this is that they attempt to eliminate the subjective altogether and thus kill the very thing that attracts people to art in the first place, the ability to project themselves into it.


What is Lyra?


From the homepage:

> Lyra is a non-profit, non-invasive communication service which aims to enable deep and meaningful conversations.

Seems like a Slack/wiki hybrid.


I think a key challenge with music theory is that it is tackling some of the same problems as in linguistics.

You have a somewhat formal system that follows some sort of methodology. However, while there is a system, it seems nearly impossible to actually describe the axioms of this system formally.

With language or music, how do you determine some bases from which all other concepts are composed? I suspect that there is probably no such bases since new concepts seem to be able to be spontaneously created from human experience and often have circular relations.


I don't have time to thoroughly read this before commenting, but upon scanning it, I echo the disdain of many of the other commenters. The lack of humility seems to reflect the lack of important prior work cited in the paper.

Most glaringly, the author assaults Helmholtz without acknowledging the fact that people who study this topic in academia are way past that. It's like if I were to tell you that I've got an amazing new theory of physics and justify it by referencing Newtonian mechanics -- every academic knew it to be incomplete a century ago. Pointing that out is not a novel idea.

If you're interested in understanding how music works on a psychological level, "music theory" is the wrong thing to search for. The fields you're interested in are psychoacoustics and music perception.

Music theory is the study of compositional practice. It's a field that collects a whole bunch of descriptive theories on how composers in different periods and genres tend to work. You can use it to help yourself compose pieces in a given paradigm.

Psychoacoustics and music perception are the study of how we actually understand sound and music. The theories therein are what gave us things like lossy compression (e.g. "exactly what raw sound data can we discard and still preserve a perceptually identical recording?"). This is an incredible achievement in that it only works if we have a thorough understanding of how the brain processes sound and music. Psychoacoustics has little to say about what makes something qualitatively musical, but that's where study of music perception picks up.

In the overlap between these two fields, there are a bunch of people working on unified theories of harmonic/Western/tonal music. The author fails to reference the most interesting work done in this area. The ones I've found most convincing are:

- Dmitri Tymoczko's Geometry of Music: http://dmitri.tymoczko.com/geometry-of-music.html

- Bill Sethares's Tuning Timbre Spectrum Scale approach: http://sethares.engr.wisc.edu/ttss.html

- Andrew Duncan's Combinatorial Music Theory: http://andrewduncan.net/cmt/

Some of this work is pretty old at this point. Granted, it's surprisingly difficult to do a full literature review in this area. I know from experience, because I studied this topic in grad school. Someone could probably earn a Ph.D. by properly synthesizing all of these idea into a music theory that combines the analytical power of Tymoczko's approach with the first-principle work of Setheres.


In relation to Bill Sethare's work, I recommend listening to example (1) here : http://sethares.engr.wisc.edu/html/soundexamples.html , which is an amazing demonstration of the relationship between overtone beating and consonance / dissonance.

Even if the statement "lack of beating between overtones sounds good" doesn't hold true as a universal rule (and I'm sure this has occurred to many people prior to Wilkerson), you can really see what Helmholtz was getting at here.


great post. drawing the distinction between music perception, music theory and psychoacoustics is very helpful for me. i just finished writing a kind of dumb rant about this article, and your post seems to address some of my complaints perfectly. thanks!


Does the author acknowledge the field of music cognition, and that it is a scientific field that produces verifiable/falsifiable results?


Authors who claim to understand music scientifically should be judged by the music they produce. If an author really does have some deep understanding of what makes music work, it should be fairly easy for the author to get a record deal, get a bunch of #1 pop hits, etc. Until then, it's alchemy.


There is a newer version 2 from 2014: https://arxiv.org/html/1202.4212v2


Thanks! We've updated the link from https://arxiv.org/html/1202.4212v1.




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