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Worth noting that Android 2.2 "released" a month ago still isn't officially available. Android fan here, by the way.



Kind of off-topic, but since it's a discussion about iOS and Android, you know what I think would be the best thing ever that could happen to the iPhone? If Apple would officially support dual-booting Android. Think about it, Apple could claim making the best device (in terms of display quality, hardware, manufacturing), but also would be the only phone on the market that lets you use the 2 best phone OS's at the same time. It would be kind of an advanced feature, so it wouldn't interfere with the 'user experience' of the normal consumer. Basically full of win for everybody.

Of course I can expect this to happen when hell freezes over I guess.


Cool, sure. But I cannot think up one scenario where I would use it.


Hehe, yes. Reminds me of BootCamp. Before that, also nobody would have believed that Apple will ever allow that officially.


This is already pretty much possible. A jailbroken iPhone gives you the best of both worlds - and you don't even need to go through the hassle of dual booting. And it's actually ridiculously easy to get up and running.

I would argue that a jailbroken iPhone is currently the best device available. You get Apple's slick UI and ease of use alongside Android's restriction-free environment.

Interesting anecdote: I actually turned off multitasking with my jailbroken iPhone. Except for some very specific cases I think most people are going to find multitasking not a big deal at all.


Well I've seen Android booting on a 3GS but that's not very stable as of know, is it? If someone manages to get Froyo running flawless on an iPhone4 with all the hardware support (camera, dual-mic, gyro, compass etc.) I would probably get one (don't have much love for iOS).


Maybe it's not available, but I've already been fixing problems with my apps that are showing up on 2.2 devices. Customers are emailing already, so it's getting out there.


Out of curiousity what sort of problems have you needed to fix? Were you using private APIs or the like?


I was using BitmapFactory to decode resources and display bitmaps on the canvas. Then I was using getPixel to get colors off the bitmaps.

I noticed that in 2.2 my color values were all over the place.

I found out that I then had to use BitmapFactory.options to disable automatic dithering and resizing which must have been defaults prior to the 2.2 upgrade.

I hate when default values for any functions are changed in updates, and this is the one I ran across in the 2.2 update.


Maybe this'll light the fire under Google's asses to hurry and release it OTA. I'm starting to grow tired of waiting to get it on my Nexus One without downloading the leaked ROM and rooting my device, which I'd really rather not do.


You don't need to root your device to install the unofficial Froyo image. It's still an image signed by Google, so you can use the standard bootloader and flasher on your N1 to install it from the SD card.

I did this with mine and my wife's N1, and neither one has an unlocked bootloader, and neither one has rooted firmware.


Dunno about the other chap, however I own an "AT&T" EPE54b image device, and for us the only option is to root, roll-back to a incompatible image, and then roll forward to Froyo.

Easy enough, but this phone is an important communications device for me and I don't want to mess around with betas. It's just surprising that Google has mangled this release so badly.


Yeah I'm running the EPE54b image and I need to root to get the unofficial/unreleased/leaked Google image.


Sounds like your devices are not being controlled by Google, but are instead being left in AT&T's hands... I'm very sorry to hear that, but it shows yet again that AT&T is the weakest link...


AT&T has nothing to do with the "AT&T" N1, and 2.2 is not officially out for any N1 model, be it the T-Mobile version or AT&T/Rogers version.

The devices getting the Froyo update via OTA right now are a subset of the AWS-compatible phones that Google first released in January, and handed out to the press and Google employees. In other words, there's no Froyo update for the N1 made for the AT&T/Rogers bands because Google's not using them to dogfood the OS image right now.

edit: now if we get into how there are some apps you can't get on the Android Market because AT&T told Google you can't have them, that's something slimy that AT&T is doing. For example, if there's an AT&T SIM in your phone, the Market won't let you download PDANet. Pull the sim, though, and there it is...


I believe I can get a phone at T-Mobil with 2.2. Too bad that it isn't available through other channels.




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