Nah, that's condescending, really. We might have different experience because of the codebases we've worked with; but I don't think there's a need for this kind of sarcasm.
Well, I've been in this line of business for 30+ years, if you think there is some aspect of it that you structurally encounter that I don't then I'm all ears.
Keep in mind that almost everybody that we end up cleaning up after has the exact attitude that you display and the only reason they feel that way is because they leave before the bill is due.
Ad hominem and appeal to authority are not the best way to argue about technology, so let's leave this.
(It feels really odd that someone tells me that he's making a living after cleaning up after people like me while so far I've thought I am paid for scaling small, poorly written systems up to enterprise levels, but well. I'd have appreciated more if we could have talked about specifics instead of "this works because I know it works").
We can talk about specifics, I linked one very particular job here (the one that I was fortunate enough to be allowed to write about, which is normally not the case) and I've invited you to give your own stories.
As you can see elsewhere in this thread I'm more than willing to change my tune and/or update the post if there is relevant information.
But your initial tone of voice + your categorical denial that these things are valuable makes it a bit harder to find common ground.
If you are scaling small poorly written systems then that already gives one very important data point that is divergent with the situation I've written about. The systems you start with are small, the systems I start with are usually large to very large and are running a mid to large enterprise and are - if you're lucky - a decade old or even much older. Either that or they are recent - and totally botched - rewrites.
If you are happy in your groove then more power to you but chances are that sooner or later you too will be handed a pile of manure without a shovel to go with it and maybe then you'll find some useful tips in that blogpost.
And the bit about the bookkeeping applies to your situation just as much as it does to larger and older systems.
Ad hominem and appeal to authority are not the best way to argue about technology, so let's leave this.
It seems to be de riguer when dealing with some of the top ranked people on HN, who all too often seem to have long ago forgotten the rules that they apparently think no longer apply to them because they have more karma than god.
My hat is off to you in how well you handled this.
Michele, I know you don't like me and I know you feel the need to insert your $0.02 wherever you feel you can stick the knife in. What drives you to do this I have absolutely no clue, but I'm sure you have your reasons. Enjoy.
I don't dislike you, I just dislike the degree to which you have zero respect for me. I think you are full well aware of the reasons I do the things I do.
I don't look to stick anyone with a knife. It is shocking how comfortable people are with casually watching my suffering and doing nothing about it while acting like any push back I give against the systemic issues that help keep me trapped in dire poverty somehow makes me evil incarnate.
I have zero respect for you because of how you treat others.
Promising them the moon to only yank the rug out from under them when it matters. You know full well what I'm talking about here and that's something that I will not forgive you for.
Your circumstances have nothing to do with any of this.
Promising them the moon to only yank the rug out from under them when it matters. You know full well what I'm talking about here and that's something that I will not forgive you for.
If I am guessing correctly as to what you are talking about, you have that backwards. That person abandoned me. I did not abandon them.
