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> Here in Ukraine it would be very hard to get adoption of a programming language that is named after a Russian military base.

This sounds really stupid, considering that many Ukrainian programmers are already using JetBrains products and that punishing a great company for the actions of politicians is kind of sad.




Would you work in a programming language called Hitler?

Any multinational company needs to do their research before deciding on a name.


Equating a programming language named after a Russian island to Hitler is a real stretch, unless you think that everything Russian is like Hitler. It's just an island and a language named after it.


maybe the appropriate US version is "Pearl Harbour" - how would you feel about a language called PearlHarbour, and can see a situation where a (non-technical) hiring manager would take issue with that appearing on your CV?


> maybe the appropriate US version is "Pearl Harbour"

That doesn't quite work—Pearl Harbor was a US base, so most Americans would be okay with it. The negative associations we have with it are what was done to it & the people who served there. We're not angry or upset about the base itself.


Sure, but that's not really answering the question is it.

I think I wouldn't necessarily put that I use Hitler on my CV, due to the negative feedback I would receive from others not in the field.

But on the other hand, barely anyone in the United States has even heard of the island Kotlin, so I'd feel more comfortable doing that.


> I think I wouldn't necessarily put that I use Hitler on my CV, due to the negative feedback I would receive from others not in the field.

But Kotlin IS NOT equivalent to Hitler AT ALL, Kotlin is like if you named your programming language "Texas" and somebody objected to the name, because "there are defence contractors located in Texas".


What about Brainfuck?


What does the name of an individual have to do with that of an island?

Wayland: I think it's the name of some America place. Should afghans, syrians, viets, [put whatever country the US invaded] stick to X11 because of this?


I think it depends on more nuance than that: I do think it would be reasonable for people to avoid a language called Guantanamo because of the name associations. Wayland happens to be a place in MA but I'm from near there and even I had no idea or prior associations with that name because of the place.


Kotlin is not the military base, it is an island. Would you object to a language named "Cuba"?


And Guantanamo Bay is a bay besides also having a base there.

I know nothing of Kotlin's specific name associations, but I don't think "it's the name of a place, therefore its fine" is valid in general. I think "Sandy Hook" would be an inappropriate name right now, while "Wayland" is fine, despite both being towns in the same general region of the world: one name invokes something specific in peoples minds and the other does not.

Its sort of like how its generally not a good idea to be named "Isis" right now, despite having plenty of harmless associations unrelated to ISIS. You might be named after the Egyption god but you are still invoking an association that you don't really want to:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Name_changes_due_to_the_Islami...


Well there is this: https://www.cuba-platform.com/ So if you want to object you can do so already.


Hitler is universally offending and I would question the motives of its creators. OTOH, I couldn't care less if a language would be called gomix or ibne (same word in Turkish) or fag.


> Hitler is universally offending

It's not though, and there are many cultures in the world where people are so far removed from what happened that they don't have an understanding of why people would be upset about it. See:

http://kotaku.com/man-opens-nazi-cafe-baffled-that-it-pisses...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross_Cafe

Plus numerous other examples


Yes I would.

I have a friend who's called, quite lovingly so, Hitler in our circle. The nick has nothing to do with any of his beliefs or opinions (we wouldn't be friends if it did). The icing on the cake is my kids talking about "uncle Hitler", that's just laugh-your-way-to-coma material.


I would, as long as it can replace Java.


Well, you already have java formal verification tool named Bandera http://bandera.projects.cs.ksu.edu/people.shtml (which name is obviously choosen by Oksana Tkachuk, one of the tool authors)


As a native Spanish speaker I'm not aware of any negative connotations of the word bandera. In Spanish it just means "flag", so any other meaning is hard to google for. What am I missing? Just curious.


one (Google Images): https://www.google.ru/search?q=bandera+una+unso&num=20&newwi...

two (Wikipedia): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stepan_Bandera

If you want to piss off a clinical... eww, not a russian, but a post-soviet russian-speaking citizen of Russian Federation (with a little putin in his head), you may place a Stepan Bandera photo on your userpic and name youself as ukrainian nationalist.

If you want to piss off a real ukrainian nationalist, you may use a Stalin phono, or any other communist leaders.

From the point of sight of normal people, both of these sides is braindead. "A plague on both your houses".





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