On: The vision of nuclear holocaust in Threads (1984) ...

[Chaebixi]

> A side note: Military doesn't man the ICBMs. They are controlled by civilians. This is by design because the past administrations didn't trust the military to control ICBMs. The fear that they would use them without hesitation was too great.

Wut? Pretty sure that's totally false. US ICBM control stations are manned by Air Force personnel: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Force_Global_Strike_Comman....

The military still had control, even after they changed the codes on the warhead activation locks to all zeros: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permissive_Action_Link#Develop...

If you're talking about civilian control of the military, you're talking about the President and Secretary of Defense, not a dude in a bunker.

[madengr → Chaebixi]

The production of nuclear weapons is under civilian control.

[Chaebixi → madengr]

> The production of nuclear weapons is under civilian control.

That's not what the comment was talking about. This is what I was responding to:

>> Military doesn't man the ICBMs. They are controlled by civilians

That's not talking about manufacturing, and it's a totally false statement.

[snerbles → madengr]

Sure, the DoE produces and "owns" the nukes, "loaning" them to the DoD for the deterrence mission.

Military personnel still turn the launch keys, when the order comes.