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Why does it otherwise seem to be the consensus that windows 10 is a "good thing" in the comments on this thread?



Because from a technical view regarding performance, safety, ease-of-use and general amenities it is the best Windows so far.


>ease-of-use and general amenities

Yea, nah. Splitting settings into various interconnected places with completely different UIs is anything but easy to use. Flat design has nothing to do with ease of use either. Not being able to disable updates might make it easier to use for the average user, certainly does not make the life of power users easier.

It is the best OS deep under the hood, but that's where it ends.


> Not being able to disable updates certainly does not make the life of power users easier.

Quite honestly, if you truly believe that as a power user you cannot completely disable upgrades in Windows 10, then you are not the type of power user who should be playing with such settings. It may sound cruel to the individual but opposed to the spectre of millions of Windows bot net units i consider it a net kindness to the rest of humanity.

As for the settings, in win10 you don't even need to remember where they are. You can just type into the start menu what you need for all the commonly accessed things, or right click the start menu to get all the classic stuff you're used to.


Yes, I believe there are scenarios where completely disabling updates is desirable. But more importantly, I believe in having a choice which updates to install while not disabling the updates altogether.

>As for the settings, in win10 you don't even need to remember where they are.

That's what you call ease of use? Having to remember what every single setting is called? Brilliant.


> Yes, I believe there are scenarios where completely disabling updates is desirable.

I think you misread what i wrote, as you are saying yes, but following it with a statement that is very different from the one I posed.

> I believe in having a choice which updates to install while not disabling the updates altogether.

Entirely possible. I am in fact doing this from time to time to pull in security updates immediately while temporarily holding back reboot one. The tools exist, but ms really does not want them used by people who might not fully understand the ramifications of their actions.

I hope you can understand that due to my agreeing with them, I'll refrain from trying to detail the how.

> Having to remember what every single setting is called?

No, typically you just type in what you want to mess with, e.g. language, region, firewall, mouse, applications, etc. and get the correct and useful thing. There are of course exceptions, but i can tell you my parents are having a much easier time with it as measured in less time spent by me having to step then through the paths into the old school settings.


>Entirely possible.

I am not interested in workarounds. Especially not in a premium OS whose all previous applicable versions had that option.

>No, typically you just type in what you want to mess with, e.g. language, region, firewall, mouse, applications, etc. and get the correct and useful thing.

Right. Try typing "ads" in it. See how that turns out. Oh, and I don't care about what time are your parents having, this is completely irrelevant to intelligently designed control panel. In fact, the whole search function is. It should be supplementary, not primary.


> workarounds

It is not a workaround. Users get one interface which ensures they don't endanger the rest of the world (similar to how in e.g. Germany newbie drivers get limiters in their car engines). Admins get a completely different interface which allows them absolute, complete and granular control.

As someone with the know-how i don't need a workaround. I simply use the interface that was intended to fulfill my needs as a professional with the requisite knowledge and experience.


There is no way to prevent specific updates from installing without using 3rd party tools.


That is not correct. As i mentioned earlier, i have no desire to explain how to someone who doesn't already have the requisite knowledge, but Microsoft absolutely provides a first party interface that allows picking and choosing of which updates to install. In fact, all such third party tools are doing is providing a custom interface on top of the interface provided by microsoft.


But it is correct. You're like a child who keeps telling everyone that it has a secret but it can't tell anyone. Considering how you have approached this whole "discussion", I am hardly surprised.

I presume that your super secret secret is KB3073930, which is about as dodgy as your argumentation and is not a part of Windows.


> KB3073930

Nope. Also, i'm seeing it more as an adult not telling a kid where the key to opening the gun locker is. Heck, the fact that you haven't yet googled it yourself is plenty proof to me that you don't have the mindset to be given such power.

(You also messed up the reply chain.)


I haven't yet "googled" it, because I have no need for it, nor do I have will to search for non-existent things. I can do it (dismiss specific updates before they are installed) just fine without your super secret workaround, thank you very much. Astonishing, is it not?

And no, at the time I was posting, there simply was no "reply" button, so I assumed the thread has reached maximum reply depth.


Because quite many people feel that way. Honestly, I think Windows 10 is largely better than Windows 8 and slightly better than Windows 7 (mainly due to small improvements in UX and major improvements in performance).

There are some negatives but they don't cancel the improvements.


Remeber the old file copy dialog? The one that pauses the entire operation waiting for your input? That doesn't let you rename/skip/replace?

The old task manager that doesn't let you End Task?

Those are annoyances that come up many times an hour on Win7, having low-level OS functions like that work very well is where Win10 shines.

If you don't want ads, unclick the checkbox.


Stockholm syndrome and lock-in.


It is if you compare it to Windows 8.




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