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Can anyone who's seen the four hour cuts comment on whether it would barbaric to watch it over two nights?

It's very tricky to fit a 4 hour movie into my life nowadays.




Here's a trick that I found works for such things: Watch what you can, then the next night, rewind about 5-10 minutes and continue from THAT point, not from exactly where you left off. It helps refresh the feeling of continuity, IMO.


The movie stands up to repeat viewings fairly close one after the other. The full cut plays with time and nostalgia in a way that deepens your appreciation of it in a second viewing. I think it can stand to be viewed in two halves - the cuts between eras make natural breaks.

It's my favourite movie, for the visual storytelling in particular.


Once Upon A Time in America should have been a trilogy, it's yet another movie that was undone by its length and the time it was released. Blade Runner is another one that should have probably been spread over two or three movies.

Sometimes I wonder what film history would look like, if only movie directors, producers and distributors had accepted the serial format earlier. It took the success of Return of the Jedi to make it acceptable to spread a story over multiple features, and even then it was considered just a geek thing until Peter Jackson's Lord of the Rings saga. Now Marvel keeps scoring hit after hit with the biggest shared-continuity universe in the business, auteurs have embraced serialization with high-quality TV series, and it's only a matter of time before someone starts purposefully making non-genre continuity-linked trilogies.


> Blade Runner is another one that should have probably been spread over two or three movies.

As a huge fan of Blade Runner, I strongly disagree. A masterpiece I've watched plenty of times already and love dearly, but there simply isn't enough plot to stretch into a series. I'm a bit upset at the general tendency to turn everything (books, movies) into trilogies, and then have prequels, sequels and whatnot. I'd rather have a single beautiful piece of art, and then have the director and scriptwriter move on to different works. I prefer focus to a never-ending milking of the proverbial cash cow. I don't enjoy "shared universes" or "world building" -- I'd rather have a single, focused good movie.

Or, to paraphrase Eldon Tyrell:

"The light that burns twice as bright burns half as long, and you have burned so very, very brightly, Blade Runner."

No more sequels. No more trilogies. I beg you, Hollywood!


I'd say it's HBC and it's ilk that shifted things. Long story arc TV shows with the same artistic ambitions and standards as movies. It's debatable where it began. First I remember is Oz but I've read people claim it goes as far back as Hill St. Blues.

In the UK we had a series called GBH that blew me away as a young person. I keep meaning to rewatch it to see if it's as good as I remember.


I think the first artistically ambitious TV show I remember coming out of the US was 'Twin Peaks'.

I've watched GBH a few times since it aired and I think it still holds up. Certainly give it a go if you get the chance. The original UK TV version of 'Edge of Darkness' is also still very, very watchable. Some remarkable scenes and performances.


> In the UK we had a series called GBH that blew me away as a young person. I keep meaning to rewatch it to see if it's as good as I remember.

I've watched it recently, and it's super-fun, but not thoughtful or deep. It's just a LibDem/Tory slander against Militant starring a cartoon character sexually impotent lefty pol who pours campaign fund champagne over hookers while plotting petty revenge against his childhood enemies, slapping children and wetting the bed.


Watched it again a couple of years ago. It's not perfect (some episodes could be chopped without you noticing), but a Tory smear it ain't. Alan Bleasdale was "True Labour" (way to the left of The Third Way), he just had no time for the Derek Hattons of the world and believed Militant was an unwitting tool of the establishment (something he made explicit in the plot). Complicated by the fact he made Murray way more interesting than Hatton, ofc.

Nelson is Bleasdale's hero: long standing Labour member. Wants to teach kids, but would never cross a picket line. Doesn't use the personal stuff the establishment have dug up to discredit Murray. &c

Incidentally, I lived near Hatton back in the day. He had done extremely well financially out of his time at the council.


> It's just a LibDem/Tory slander against Militant

You can't reasonably accuse Alan Bleasdale of being anything close to a LibDem/Tory propagandist. Not without shifting the Overton window to a preposterous degree. There's a lot of space to place one's self in between Blair and Militant without because accused of betraying Labour's principles.


It's not at all boring or difficult to get through. It's simply a great film, both excellently plotted and filmed beautifully. You're never going to feel it's going on too long or you want to have a break.

(I've watched the European cut several times. I also hate the modern trend for over-long films or episodic TV with a thin plot stretched out.)


this film is usually shown in the UK in this format, essentially 2 x 2 hour movies, usually on a friday and saturday night. It loses nothing in the telling to do this. Watch and enjoy, the soundtrack is almost as good as the movie.


Hah, reading this almost makes me miss the days of watching evening films on channel 5, where they'd be broken into two parts separated by a 15 minutes news break.


I have seen the 4hr cut a few times. I still regard it as one of the best movies I have seen. The move stays with you.


From 8 to 12 pm is doable, but as other have replied, rewind some 5-10 minutes between your breaks and you should get a good experience. It is worth it, it is one of the best films ever made IMO.


I don't remember there being an intermission (in contrast to Seven Samurai) when I saw a screening so I'm no sure the best point to pause.


Been awhile since I watched it, but I distinctly recall an intermission card about 2.5hrs in (right after Noodles tries to see Deborah off at the station). Still a long time in.


I have a very soft spot for this movie, I say YES. Watch it in one sitting. It'll leave a bigger impact.




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