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"So is the United States seeing the rise of its own deep state?"..."Not quite, experts say, but the echoes are real — and disturbing."

Wrong. The deep state not only is already in place and entrenched deeper than almost anyone could imagine, but it's power is at unprecedented levels. The problem is that the general public is being wowed by all the operation mockingbird CIA outlet propaganda to the point that they aren't seeing that right now there is being waged a very real war inside those deep recesses for who gains the power. I do have to say that the media is even bringing the phrase up those is amazing.

The originator of the term "deep state" and I believe "deep politics" is the former Canadian diplomat turned educator, author, poet, Peter Dale Scott. He really is the prime standard in studying the ds because he is very academic in his pronouncements and tries very hard to follow the evidence and not over-exert his positions. eg. he mostly sticks to deductive logic, with smatters of inductive logic. Now, the other authors worth reading on this matter are Michael Parenti, Webster Tarpley, Mike Lofgren, David Talbot, John Perkins, Jim Marrs, G Edward Griffin, Anthony Sutton, and Douglass Valentine.

Following the thread, one tends to come to one particular author though, that outpaces and outshines the others, because he not only gained unprecedented access to the historical documents behind one of the main groups pulling the deep states strings, but because he also was a well connected professor at Georgetown, mentor to Bill Clinton, and his writing is extremely heady: Carroll Quigley.

According to most of these authors, the deep state rose to power primarily in 63 via the JFK assasination (and of course they used a MKUltra/Artichoke victim Sirhan Sirhan to get RFK too), and I would posit that most of them would agree we have barely had a president not completely beholden to them since them. Any time one tried to buck them, he was given a warning very quickly (Reagan assassination attempt made him start playing ball, if he had died we would have had Bush Sr. early!), and the list of similar happenings to presidents goes on and on.

So, the deep state exists, so who are they? Factions and subfactions hiding within: "NSA, CIA, DIA, NSC, UN, NATO, FEMA, Round Table Groups, DHS, Bankers/Financial elite, Defense Companies, Big Oil/Gas, Big Pharma, Think Tanks, Other tax exempt foundations, K-street, The infiltrated media."

What has enabled the deep state? The NatSec Act of 47, The patriot act, the NDAA, 501c3s, COINTELPRO-esque operations against dissidents, abuse of national security as a get out of court free blanket, the black market funding of black budget operations, blackmail as a standard modus operandi on important people, and more than anything the abuse of compartmentalization in the intelligence groups, which creates a situation where top level comprimise can be hidden from everyone but still direct actions and moves in the interest of the deep state.

What are the goals and motives of the deep state? That one, I just have to say I don't know. I have suspicions based on all the contextual clues, but I will leave those for later.

The number one thing you could do research on that will really open your eyes to the deep state is this:

Continuity of Government (CoG)(Shadow Government) plans (which we primarily found out about in the Iran contra hearings), which were written in the 1980s by Rumsfeld and Cheney along with participation by some of the Iran Contra characters like Oliver North.

CoG is the key which can unravel the deep state. According to Peter Dale Scott, we are in a hidden constitutional crisis primarily centered around this issue, and CoG may still be in effect by way of the continual declerations of national emergency (Bush proclamation 7463, EO 13223, 13224, were the starting declerations, later continued with NSPD-51 in 2007, and Obama has continued them). These continual declerations have been in violation of (b) 50 U.S.C. 1622.

Supposedly, if some information Scott has is true, "the provisions of the National Emergencies Act have now been rendered inoperative by COG. If true, this would indicate that the constitutional system of checks and balances no longer applies, and also that secret decrees now override public legislation as the law of the land."

This is the true issue of the deep state in the United States of America, and is one of the most important issues of our time.




Peter Scott has the attention span of a six month old puppy.


Really? Care to back up your statement with any concrete example?




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