Just thought I'd add a bit of "color" to this submission since it seems to be dropping:
Honestly, for most of my career, I can say that it was far more than 10k a year. In the last few years, as more people have posted salary information, did I realize my salary was way below market and below most of my peers. I was just happy to be in tech... Only now, with over 10 years of experience, am I drawing a median salary and that took going through a recruiter.
Just so disturbing. We pride ourselves in tech on being a meritocracy. But it's not really true, even now. I'm a starchy-assed white guy, who was born in Asia and married a dark-skinned woman, so you'd think maybe I was different. But when I ran engineering organizations 25 years ago, I interviewed and hired precisely 0 African Americans and 0 Hispanics. I promoted two white women, and two white men, and nobody I recall of Asian, Indian or Middle-Eastern background.
But articles like this help. Keep pounding in the message, and eventually people will change ... or die off.
This headline is really bad. No evidence whatsoever was provided to suggest that being black causes you to get a lower salary.
What it does tell us is that black people ask for less salary on average, which might mean that either they are applying for lower paid jobs, or that their negotiating skills on the whole are poorer in this sample.
> The average African-American candidate is nearly 50% more likely to get hired in tech but gets paid about $10,000 less in San Francisco and New York, putting black tech workers at a significant disadvantage, even compared to other minority groups.
This figure of $10k is false if you look at the data in the graph, but even if we were to accept the artificially inflated figure, would a job seeker prefer an 8% increase in salary IF they are hired, vs a 50% greater chance of actually being hired?
These kinds of topics are always full of emotion, and with that comes a lot of bullshit unfortunately. I wish reporters wrote articles that told us facts, rather than trying simply to push an agenda or point of view. If you care about a cause, making terrible arguments for it makes it look like there isn't actually any issue to deal with, and that it's all overblown. I think this is a real shame. Wouldn't it be nice to have an honest, fact-based conversation about these topics once in a while?
I wonder, is this a factor in remote work?
Like, if you apply, without a photo and just apply your skill - and nothing hints on race, gender- does this injustice vannish?
When I see these allegations, I often wonder if we are looking at it from the wrong side.
Yes, someone black might be getting paid $10K/less on average. The question is, do they have the same amount of education and experience as their non-black counterpart?
If not, then we need to figure out why there aren't as many qualified black candidates.
Instead, the answer seems to just have a quota of black applications, which really doesn't help anyone.
Honestly, for most of my career, I can say that it was far more than 10k a year. In the last few years, as more people have posted salary information, did I realize my salary was way below market and below most of my peers. I was just happy to be in tech... Only now, with over 10 years of experience, am I drawing a median salary and that took going through a recruiter.