In case you weren't paying attention, the main reason for this round of protests is that Trump's executive order is causing legal permanent residents to be detained in US airports and/or deported from the country.
A visa does not guarantee entry into the country. It is a permit to travel to and to enter the United States. The citizens of certain countries - such as Canada - do not need to obtain a visa in order to enter the US. The Visa Waiver Program waives the visa application process for tourists and short term business visitors from a separate list of countries.
Regardless of whether or not a visa is needed, the border guard has final say on whether or not a foreign citizen is allowed to enter the country.
Nah, laws and their constitutionality as determined by our judiciary have the final say. ICE disobeying them, even at the behest of the president, is a constitutional crisis.
I'm talking about visas specifically, not green cards.
It is impractical for a foreign citizen living overseas without ties to the US to sue the US government for wrongfully denying them entry to the country even though they had a visa. It would be simpler and cheaper for an individual with the means to pull this off to simply apply for an investment-based green card[0] or to get a Maltese passport.[1] Malta is on the list of Visa Waiver Program countries.
Green card holders are not exempt from the order as per advice from the whitehouse itself. The DHS initially thought they would be exempt, but were later corrected by Trump.
A US citizen cannot be barred from entering the US. That is one of the key rights of citizenship.
A US citizen is also required to present their US passport when entering the US - even if they are a dual citizen and hold another passport.
The whole thing about dual citizens refers to citizens of the banned countries who also hold citizenship of a third country - i.e. one that is not the US and one that is not banned. e.g. an Iraqi-Canadian who presents a Canadian passport is still barred from the US by Trump's order.
Can you please stop saying "if you weren't paying attention" when you were the only person in this thread not paying attention?
Us leftists are willing to work with Trump voters and bridge the divide that wounds this nation. We're willing to listen to concerns about your jobs and communities that we clearly failed to listen to in this election cycle. But you have to be willing to say "I was wrong about Trump, I wasn't paying attention."
Right, and herein lies perhaps the best thing to come out of a Trump presidency: People obviously aren't prepared to discover exactly how much power has been slowly conglomerated and consolidated into the office of President. This stuff didn't just suddenly happen with Trump. He's just using the laws this country gave him. And perhaps there is a contradictory law somewhere on the books from fifty years ago. That doesn't mean much, because the kid going to MIT can't return to school after visiting family right now. The law might get sorted out by the courts later, but right now? Maybe after this, there won't be as much apathy about what's made law in the United States.
