On: Intel Management Engine cleaner

[SEJeff]

And an obligatory link to CoreBoot, which I believe has a bit more history than Libreboot:

https://www.coreboot.org/Intel_Management_Engine

[mordocai → SEJeff]

Libreboot is just a more strict about freedom coreboot from what I understand. As in it is literally a fork/derivative of coreboot.

[SEJeff → mordocai]

Ah got it. With the recent GNU drama of libreboot I wonder how viable it really is as an ecosystem.

[yuhong → SEJeff]

Personally I think the FSF ideology taken too far is pretty ridiculous anyway.

[nfoz → yuhong]

Yet here we are, discussing the secret OS that runs on its own chip and can't be disabled by the end-user.

The world is a pretty ridiculous place, even with the best efforts of those ridiculous FSF zealots. I don't always agree with them and their methods and communication skills aren't perfect, and it's a shame to see coreboot/libreboot get fragmented etc... but imagine how backwards the world would be without some people taking things 'a bit too far sometimes'.

[milcron → mordocai]

Another difference is that Coreboot is essentially a rolling release, whereas Libreboot periodically takes a snapshot of upstream and maintains it for a while. Libreboot is therefore something like a long-term service release.

Anecdotally, I also found Libreboot easier to build. There is less configuration involved.

[floatboth → mordocai]

It's a distribution of coreboot + GRUB, 100% free of any proprietary blobs. Not really a "fork".