Bespin based IDE for processing

[apgwoz]

http://sketch.processing.org

[m0nastic]

Nice. The Palm Ares project (the web-based IDE for doing WebOS development) is also using Bespin.

http://ares.palm.com/Ares/about.html

It's actually a really cool project.

[moxiemk1]

This is a good step for both Bespin and Processing: a practical implementation of Bespin, and an interface for Processing that's nicer than the current one.

It seems a bit unfinished though; I couldn't get any animations to work, and saving and such is clearly on the way, but hopefully it'll get there. There's a lot of potential here.

[ewjordan → moxiemk1]

I couldn't get any animations to work

Make sure to remove noLoop() from the setup function.

Try this:

void setup()

{

  size(200,200);

  frameRate(30);

  background(0);

  fill(255);

  PFont fontA = loadFont("courier");

  textFont(fontA, 14);  

}

int x = 0;

void draw(){

  background(0);

  x = x+1;

  if (x > width) x=0;

  text("Hello HN!",x,20);

  text("Hello HN!",x-width,20);

}

[jules]

It would be cool if the editor didn't lose focus when you press run. It would be even cooler if the code would be continuously loaded & run as you edit.

[leif → jules]

Theoretically, clj-processing combined with swank does this, but for me it just crashes X. I imagine this bug is not universal, and probably depends on the version of clojure I'm running.

[e1ven]

Nice! Has anyone worked with embedding Bespin? How difficult is it to add to your own work?

[jtemplestein → e1ven]

It's really easy. Just download the embedded drop-in package from http://bespin.mozillalabs.com . They also have a build tool that lets you customize the plugins in your embedded build.

Apparently they had a major rewrite recently so many of the awesome old plugins (collaboration, timemachine etc) don't work properly anymore.

I played with it for a little and couldn't even get the commandline to work, but your mileage may vary.

Embedding just the editor is really easy though.

[endergen → e1ven]

I was just working with it last night, it definitely has many missing features. I was most interested in modifying their color scheme to something more to my taste.

I am using it to make my own editor for dynamically modifying my own frontend/backend built using Node.js.

As well I'm working on a patch for SuperStylin(Which needs a CSSSyntax):

http://johnboxall.github.com/superstylin/

I know for sure that the following is broken:

1) No CSSSyntax

2) The theming system is broken and there is only one theme that is hard-coded (At least in the embedded version as far as I can tell), I got around this by just modifying the hard-coded values to my tastes.

If anyone has quick questions, just ask.

[sp332 → e1ven]

The Bespin API is still pre-release. Changes are usually improvements, but sometimes stuff breaks. Fortunately Mozilla is pretty good about documentation, so https://bespin.mozillalabs.com/docs/embedding/index.html should stay up-to-date.