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I think the solution is ending loans for college. I don't think an 18-year-old with no assets, or even a stable job or no job at all should be given that much money for college. No bank would give them a loan for a house. At least you can foreclose on a house and take it back. You can't take back someone's education.

Plus every time the department of education gives out more money, colleges raise prices.

Imagine how much a television would cost if the government said everyone must have a television. They're older people who tell me back in their day they could work at a restaurant and pay for college debt free. Get the government out of the student loan business and let the free market decide.

If no money is being printed for students to go to colleges, fewer people will go to college and therefore the schools will be forced to compete for student's business. Therefore college will be much more affordable for the people who wish to go.

I totally agree with our President-Elect about getting rid of the DoE, along with Common core. Let things be up to the states.




That just means your parents wealth will dictate your future even more.


What does parent wealth have to do with it? I watched this documentary years ago. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kC_RYgkkmcM I totally agree with this film.

Apparently back in the old days you could work a part time job, and pay for college at night debt free. If the gov keeps handing out loans, then what incentive do schools have to keep their prices low and compete with each other?

Oh and then the presidents of some colleges are paid more than the president of the United States. I guess appointing 4,000 people, managing the military, a bunch of departments across the country, etc is easier than managing a bunch of kids by their logic. Oh and don't forget we gotta build a nice stadium so I can put my name on it too!


> Apparently back in the old days you could work a part time job

Even if that was true, it's not the old days anymore. The college I went to is now at 50,000$+ a year with compulsory room and board. Try paying that off with a part-time job and still competing well with your rich peers.

No matter what, it's an enormous advantage to not have to work while in college. I know I wouldn't have done as well if I was working simultaneously, since I was still stressed out as is.


Wow, that's about $200,000 over 4 years.

Yeah, I agree it's high. I just think if loans aren't easily given out like they are then colleges would be forced to lower their prices.

Yeah, I feel if you really want to master something you need to do it full time. Just seems like the whole system is screwed up as it is right now. Plus if you got a job at McDonalds and went for a PHD in physics they still count you getting a job even if not in their field as part of their success rate. I feel it's totally misleading.

I don't know if these young people even know what they are getting into. My mom says to just file bankruptcy if it doesn't work out, which isn't true. Many people falsely believe that.


Tuition at the college I went to was about $8000 a year. I graduated in 2013. What did the extra several of tens of thousands buy you?


It was one of the the few smaller colleges with a linguistics department, so there's that. I had small class sizes and good, well-known professors, but the main reason is because I was 18 and I was just expected to go to a college like that. I personally didn't want to go to college at all, but it wasn't an option, and my parents fortunately had the money to cover everything. I got a national merit scholarship which knocked about 20,000$ off the price tag (and I contributed ~3000$ a year), but still, way too pricey. Many of my friends took out huge loans to go there. If I had the choice I would've lived abroad for a few years and then went to a state college.


Where I live, State owned universities subsidize in-state students tuition so it ends up being $12,000 without room & board. If it's not State owned, it's usually in the 30,000's not including room & board.


To add to that I would argue that if we made sports optional that could also make college cheaper. Not everyone wants to go to a school for the sports team they want to get an education and get out in the real world.


> "I totally agree with our President-Elect about getting rid of the DoE, along with Common core. Let things be up to the states."

Okay, I'll bite. What? As is, with the DoE and Common Core, we struggle to get the poorer states to educate its students adequately compared to the wealthier states. Take a look at any metric you want about education in New Mexico, Louisiana, West Virginia and compare it to Massachusetts, New Jersey, or Virginia.

One of the things that makes the federal government so valuable is its ability to provide as even footing as possible for citizens of all states. Gutting the federal ability for that is going to ensure that those state which already struggle will struggle more and is going to lead to a larger set of divides within our country.


Is that more important than to have an entire generation be slaves to debt?




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