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  "But we also have to have an organized effort against 
  gangs," Hillary Clinton  said in a C-SPAN video clip. 
  "Just as in a previous generation we had an organized 
  effort against the mob. We need to take these people 
  on. They are often connected to big drug cartels, they 
  are not just gangs of kids anymore. They are often the 
  kinds of kids that are called superpredators — no 
  conscience, no empathy. We can talk about why they 
  ended up that way, but first, we have to bring them to 
  heel."
So, no, it's a twisting of words. But not limited to the Trump campaign. Trump didn't call all Mexicans rapists, either.



But he did say that about immigrants. Or maybe illegal immigrants if you want to specially charitable. If he would said that about mexican gangs people would be less angry about it.


The stats said that 1 in 4 women who cross the border illegal were raped. Trump was talking about those rapists, not all Mexicans.


You can argue semantics of the full quote, but the only way you get to, "Trump called all Mexicans rapists" is: a) ignoring the context of the remarks being on illegal immigration, b) implying examples apply to the entire population, and c) ignoring the remainder of his remarks.

  When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their 
  best. [...] They’re sending people that have lots of 
  problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. 
  They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re 
  rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.
If you want to argue pure semantics, you have to be concerned that Trump thinks Mexico is sending people, you should be confused about how "they" bring problems "with us", and stuck in a moral quandary about how all Mexicans in the U.S. are drug-toting criminal rapists who are also good people (maybe). You could never get to "all Mexicans" unless Mexico is "sending" 100% of its population.

Or, you interpret the remarks to mean that illegal Mexican immigrants are more likely to be drug-users, criminals, and rapists, with the immediate and explicit caveat that this charge does not imply to all illegal Mexican immigrants, because at least "some" of them are good people.




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