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Neither 1 or 2 are required for communism or socialism. Regarding #1, socialism distinguishes between personal private property and productive assets. Nobody is advocating for violating personal private property. And #2 is not something most mainstream socialists advocate for either, so it's mostly a strawman.

The only substantial difference between socialism and capitalism is the democratic control of the workplace. Capitalism's idea of a workplace is inherently totalitarian, socialism's is democratic. That's it.




> Regarding #1, socialism distinguishes between personal private property and productive assets.

There is no moral distinction. It's an arbitrary distinction to justify robbing people of the value they generate. It's slavery.

> Nobody is advocating for violating personal private property.

But communists are advocating for violating private property.

>And #2 is not something most mainstream socialists advocate for either, so it's mostly a strawman.

Socialists universally support economic regulations. You have not thought about any of this carefully.


Well said, thank you for your explanation.




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