On: Talking to C Programmers about C++ [video]

[MichaelMoser123]

> trying to understand what the fuck cout<<x actually does

You can always do fprintf instead of that; i almost never do C++ streams for io - there is always a way to avoid them.

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I have also never seen a codebase that has used cout piping that was worth any salt.

But then why is it the first thing we shove into peoples faces when teaching them the language?

[MichaelMoser123 → gravypod]

i think they want to make an impression: C++ is supposed to be a new language, and not just C with a class system + templates bolted on top of it. i guess streams is supposed to be the new way of doing IO, never mind the circular inheritance mess and virtual function calls for getting new data.