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Proof that they're not pointless: The adobe password leak. Other than the giant crossword puzzle[0] created by the password hints combined with their choice of ECB mode to encrypt the passwords that allowed people to infer blocks of passwords, I haven't been able to find any evidence that the encryption key was leaked or guessed. So, most of the passwords were never discovered. I'm betting their key was a full 168 bit random value that was immediately deleted when the leak came to light, so it's likely that value will never exist again in this universe. Compare that to something like LinkedIn (SHA1) where enthusiasts have cracked almost 97% of the passwords in that leak. How many more have blackhats cracked?

I certainly wouldn't rely on symmetric encryption alone to store passwords. If the password leaks, you expose all passwords in mere seconds. Plus you can see your user's plaintext passwords (since you have the key), which you should not be able to do. But as an extra measure symmetric encryption has already proven itself to be useful.

[0] https://xkcd.com/1286/




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