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[emodendroket]

Windows has its own legacy baggage and I wonder about the proposition that the mobile OSes' Unix underpinnings aren't relevant. Depends on what you're doing, I'd think.

[pjmlp → emodendroket]

Windows might have its own baggage, but with Windows 8 they have brought the original design of .NET from the ashes and assuming the current path is to maintain, those of us that like Windows will have a nice OO ABI alongside safe languages compiling to native code.

All the mobile OS relevant APIs don't have anything to do with UNIX.

All the Objective-C, Swift, Java, JavaScript, C++ APIs available on those OSes don't depend on being implemented on top of an UNIX kernel.

[vram22 → pjmlp]

>alongside safe languages compiling to native code.

Which ones do you mean? F#, ..., ???

>All the Objective-C, Swift, Java, JavaScript, C++ APIs available on those OSes don't depend on being implemented on top of an UNIX kernel.

Interesting point.

[pjmlp → vram22]

I mean .NET Native and the lessons of Midori finding their way into C# 7+ and C++/CX, alongside with emphasis on the C++ Core Guidelines, which started at Microsoft before Bjarne got involved.

[emodendroket → pjmlp]

I mean, I like C#, but that stuff seems to me to be sitting several levels above the OS anyway.

[pjmlp → emodendroket]

Because most likely you never spent time using or learning the technical details of the OS developed at Burroughs, Xerox, ETHZ, DEC, MSR,....

Also I didn't mention just C#.

[emodendroket → pjmlp]

I just mentioned it because I'm familiar with it and I am excited about the .NET Core stuff letting you use it in more places.

[pjmlp → emodendroket]

Ah, then you should check Joe Duffy posts about Midori and his talk at InfoQ.