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If you are concerned about privacy and gov tracking and getting their hands on your email then whats the point of migrating from one "unsecure" email provider (gmail) to another one (fastmail)? With some of the fastmail servers in US jurisdiction your email is just as safe as with gmail.



> With some of the fastmail servers in US jurisdiction your email is just as safe as with gmail.

That's not really true. The servers themselves and their provider may be under US jurisdiction, but not FastMail itself, which means they can take measures against unauthorized access (e.g. encryption) and they can detect breaches and take steps.

Nothing will be foolproof, of course, since the NSA is the worst enemy you could have and if they have physical access to those servers, you simply can't claim you're 100% protected, but it's much better than nothing.

See: https://www.fastmail.com/about/privacy.html

Furthermore, there are actual trade agreements between countries and if the NSA would access the servers of foreign companies on simple whims, the US can lose a lot of money if customers find out. I know of at least one big German multinational company that banned the usage of several US-based services and tightened security, after the Snowden revelations, for fear of industrial espionage.

In other words, the price for breaching users' privacy is significantly higher, because in Google's case, they just have to ask for it and Google can't even disclose such breaches to their customers even if they wanted.


In this case it was less about gov tracking, and more about the depth of the machine learning profile GOOG builds of its users.

That being said, decentralising a bit to providers that don't specialise in user profiling but more in email handling, is a step in the right direction.


gotcha! noone can guarantee fastmail wont be doing the same thing.

We get what we pay for. Free email is not free. The price is the security that we give up. Gmail and Fastmail are equivalent to me. Both own your privacy that you consciously give up for free...


Fastmail is paid service.


fastmail is not free


That was exactly my initial thought and then I read " after receiving an email from Google asking me to indicate how exactly I would like them to use my data to customise adverts around the web, and after thinking for a bit about what kind of machine learning tricks I would be able to pull on you with 12 years of your email, I decided that I really had to make alternative plans for my little email empire."


yes, I see no real gain in migrating Email to Fastmail. Especially not for privacy against (US) government in any meaningful way. He should have moved to e.g. Switzerland based https://kolabnow.com




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