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So you are saying NYC is much less expensive than Bay Area?



Yes. Specifically, rents are much higher in SF/SV than in NYC. SF has even higher rent than Manhattan. Most of NYC (not Manhattan or Williamsburg) can be quite reasonable.


Does SF gave rent brokers you have to go through? Manhattan you have to pay first/last rent to a broker plus deposit you need around 8-$12k to sign any lease up front


Brokers fee is one month, not two, and the outer boroughs are much cheaper.


Broker's fees of 15% or even 20% seemed to be fairly common last time I was looking in Manhattan several years ago. It's definitely not pegged at one month anymore nowadays even in Brooklyn.


I moved from SF to Manhattan and found the prices and the process of finding an apartment easier. Most of my San Francisco friends dare not move or move to Oakland. People move here in NYC all the time, paying roughly the same in rent accounting for yearly inflation related increases.


No not really. Anywhere "reasonable" will have poor quality housing and 1hr commutes on the horrible subway system.


Yes, especially since car ownership is optional in NYC.


NYC is significantly cheaper than SF.




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